Hello, the last weeks I played around a little with setups, which allow to run applications on N800, which are not ported to maemo. The main problem using this kind of applications is the missing keyboard, if they are cross compiled. vncviewer (http://vncviewer.garage.maemo.org/ ) can handle this, as easily is tested connecting to a debian linux machine and trying all the applications availible.
Have a look at the screen shot at http://physik.de/770/ with debian / testing runnin on a N800 within chroot and vncviewer. I tried three different setups (all are working, but none is enduser ready:-) 1.) I compiled Xvnc using the source from debian/testing within bora. This was running on N800. Than I started Xvnc for display :8 (from xterm) set the display variable and started the crosscompiled but unported version of e.g. rdesktop. Than vncviewer was started to view this localaly. This way one can use cross compiled version of linux software. 2.) I installed the debian armel port within a chroot environment, installed the vncserver package within this port and did basicaly the same as in 1.) what to be done for setup this: I have debian / armel port running on N800 on a 512 internal flash. I had to format it with ext3 filesystem (I think ext2 would have been OK) I had to insmod mbcache and ext2 module I mounted it I unpacked the rootfs from http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2007/01/msg00034.html I installed chroot and chrooted to the directory (I installed a new version of tar (compiled from sources), as the busybox does not support bz2 files) Now I do a gpt-get update within chroot ... This way all packages within this debian armel port seem to be usable on the N800 3.) I did basically the same but with debian / testing for the arm platform. I compiled debootstrap for maemo, used it to install debian / sarge into a chroot environment. Than I configured /etc/apt/sources.list to use debian testing within the chroot. Did a apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade (if I remember correctly I had to remove apt-get first and install the version from debian / stable download dpkg -i), installed vncserver and icewm (window manager) and two init scripts: /root/init.sh with on N800 to start the chroot environment #!/bin/sh insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.18-omap1/mbcache.ko insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.18-omap1/ext2.ko mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc2 chroot /media/mmc2/sid-arm /root/init.sh and within the chroot environment there was #!/bin/sh Xvnc -depth 16 -geometry 800x600 :8& export DISPLAY=:8 icewm& mount proc /proc -t proc mount devpts /dev/pts -t devpts xsetroot -solid "rgb:00/00/30" /bin/bash And up was the debian testing on the N800. I tried running firefox, gimp, kstars, xterm (a device was missing in debian / testing). firefox was quite fast, kstars very slow (floating point ?) gimp was slow too. But simple applications (gnome based and kde based) seem to run perfectly, just apt-get them within debian / testing and run. E.g. rdesktop runs fine in this setup. I expect even gnome desktop would be installable, only my 512 internal sd-card is to small:-) Thus anybody discussing, helping ... to get (I would love the debian / testing) setup enduser ready? A 300 MByte root fs I do not want to deliver, which would be the easiest way :-) Or getting the first setup developer ready, so that they may easily crosscompile an launch application they love. How to pack this for maemo (dependence an vncviewer and Xvnc server (not x11vnc as in 2006 application list :-) Hope some discussions will start :-) Detlef _______________________________________________ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
