Graham

seems reasonable enough.
I just worry that testers are not as clear headed.

gary

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Graham Cobb
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> wrote:

> On Wednesday 26 November 2008 18:34:17 gary liquid wrote:
> > i don't think I follow with this extremely limited -devel testing cycle
> > route, especially since *anyone* (even seasoned professionals) who
> connect
> > to -devel at this point for however short a period run the overriding
> risk
> > of screwing up their system.
>
> I don't agree.  I, personally, run with extras-devel enabled all the time.
> But then I don't ever click on "Upgrade All" and I don't say "oh, a shiny
> new
> version of Canola -- must upgrade". However, when I install something new
> it
> often comes from extras-devel, and I do upgrade things sometimes (because I
> want the upgrade, or it has been around a while, or I suspect that it might
> interact in some important way with one of my apps).
>
> For beta releases, I announce them on ITT and I tell beta testers to
> temporarily set up extras-devel in order to load the upgrade, and then
> disable it again.
>
> Basically, I hope and expect developers to run with extras-devel enabled --
> it
> helps us all if we are each keeping reasonably up to date with each others
> apps (and, hopefully, finding interaction problems before our users do).
>
> And I expect power users to have extras-devel configured (because they have
> participated in someone's beta test) but disabled (so they don't pick up
> stuff by mistake).
>
> Graham
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