Hi, it really looks wrong IMHO if stuff like socat, rootsh, or openssh turn up in the extras repository ready for end-users to be installed. extras should only contain applications that are safe for everyone to play around with. Stuff like this is meant for advanced users and developers. I think it would be best to have another official repository "extras-advanced" for these things, that comes preconfigured but deactivated on the device, with a big warning that apps in there are meant for advanced users who know what these tools are.
Maybe we should open a brainstorm for separating the sharp knives from the toys. :) extras-advanced could have its own QA queue even. Or the QA decides whether something that passes QA is good for extras (safe for everyone) or extras-advanced (tools for advanced users). Maybe something like voting with "thumbs up (end-user)", "thumbs up (advanced)", and "thumbs down"? Any suggestions? Martin 2009/11/1, tz <tho...@mich.com>: > I'm a power user and not the only one. And what I used my current > tablets for were testing networks and doing other low level stuff, > mainly from xterm, but sometimes from python front-ends to linux. So > I ported a number of utilities under Linux to maemo/diablo and started > to do it for fremantle. > > Way back when, I complained that half of what I wanted to install was > invisible except under "red pill mode", and after getting all the > noise about not using it and explanations, for those utilities I > thought were significant, I created versions in user/* because it is > the only way they would be visible. > > One of them was socat. So I ported it and now that I submitted it for > fremantle they say it shouldn't be put in user/ so I'm both confused > and annoyed. This is the iTunes Application Store by mob justice. "I > don't like your app so you can't have it in extras!". No one reported > any actual bug, or problem, they just don't want to make it available > to users or anyone else using the normal means. > > There is only one option and I'm trying to play by the rules - and > going thorough all the steps. > > I have it in user/utilities which is probably where it belongs, but > someone suggested user/development. Normally I wouldn't mind, but > first, no guarantee anyone will actually change their vote, second, it > is really annoying since I have to bump the version too or it won't > build, reconstruct the source uploads, upload them, build them, hope > nothing goes wrong, and promote them JUST TO CHANGE ONE STUPID STRING > that someone doesn't like AND MAY NOT RESULT IN APPROVAL. A lot of > effort for probably nothing. > > So we're back to having to do dpkg, hack around the application > manager, turn on or add "red pill mode" and all that junk again. Or > just tell everyone to enable extras-testing so they can have access to > disliked programs and have to put up with unstable betas? > > Is there some category under user/* I can put it in without worrying > about being rejected except for actual bugs, or did all the discussion > about how to avoid the ugly hacks yet be able for users to actually > get to my programs result in nothing? > _______________________________________________ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers > _______________________________________________ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
