On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Peter Flynn <peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie>wrote:
> [Java not only a language but a platform] > > > > Thats part of Suns stupid marketing strategy. Its a language and a > > platform. C++ is a language. QT is a platform. Oh hell, according to > > the marketing Java is an OS as well. > > It's a language. There are platforms and OS-like applications built with > it, but it's a language. No, you´re wrong. It´s a platform AND a language. In fact in the Java 1.x days Sun CLEARLY promoted it like that. Then the language jihad got over and the platform issue mostly disappeared from marketing. But it´s STILL a platform. You can write code in Python or Ruby and run it in the java platform thanks to Jython and JRuby. H*ck, you can even use IBM´s Netrexx and write Rexx code and end up with Java bytecode... > > > > Both GTK and QT are plattforms which are just as powerfull as Java. > > The need for Java on Maemo is pretty limited. > > Possibly, but essential in my case. It's a deal-breaker: no Java means I > can't do my work, which requires several applications currently requiring > Java. If Java isn't available for the N900, I won't buy it, and nor will any > of my colleagues in the same business, several of whom bought N8*0s after > seeing mine do what it does. Exactly my point. Nokia has a LOT to win by shipping the device with a Sun Java VM preinstalled. But they won´t listen, I´ve been saying this to anybody that would hear -both at Nokia and elsehwere- but it seems to me they´re too cozy with MSFT now... Ironically, Symbian has better Java support than Maemo... http://developer.symbian.com/main/documentation/runtime_environments/java/ Of course, that´s because that decision was made a lot of time before the current Nokia-MSFT honeymoon. I bet they´d drop Java support from Symbian if they could. FC
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