Peter Flynn wrote:
> [David]
>   
>> Maybe holding the unjustified vitriol until you read the reply that came *3
>> minutes* after the post? (and well over an hour before you posted).
>>     
>
> My apologies for the crossed wires: I'm away from base so my access is 
> sporadic, and messages don't always arrive as promptly as one might wish.
>
> And if it came over as vitriol my apologies for that also; frustration 
> sometimes leads to this when things which seem obvious and apparent to the 
> dumb user (me) look radically different to the developers.
>
>   
>> Especially since one of the best bits of community marketing from Quim was:
>>
>> $ jailbreak
>> jailbreak: not found
>> $ sudo gainroot
>> #
>>     
>
> That message doesn't appear to have made my mailbox, but it's excellent news, 
> thanks very much.
>
>   
>> Which incidentally means you can build and install your own java 
>> interpreter. I
>> look forward to seeing your java4maemo package; since Nokia gave you exactly
>> what you asked for.
>>
>> You *do* intend to do that for the community don't you?
>>     
>
> I think this is more crossed wires, I'm afraid. I'm a user of Java 
> applications, not a Java developer. I develop stuff that uses Java 
> applications, among others, but I don't write Java (it's on the list to learn 
> next year). All I was looking for was to know whether there would be an 
> implementation of Java available that would let me run a commandline Java 
> application like Saxon. I'm not looking for graphics, embeddability, APIs, or 
> libraries, so I'm in a specialist minority, and it's sometimes frustratingly 
> difficult to explain to developers the apparent simplicity of my needs, when 
> they are justifiably much more concerned with more complex demands.
>   
Everyone starts as a user, then slowly becomes a developer. Given your 
small requirements of only needing command-line Java, you have a good 
chance of compiling Java for Maemo and having it work for your needs. 
Report your success or failure to the maemo-devel list, where you might 
get some help from other developers. It might snowball.

Jason
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