'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 18/12/11 10:32 did gyre and gimble: > For the record, attached are three alternative [1] untested > proof-of-concept patches that make kernel start on vt7.
Personally I'm not a fan of sticking to vt7. As I said in an earlier thread, if the primary use case of the machine is graphical, then why start at 7? It's an arbitrary choice that fitted in with other uses when it was first introduced, but these days it's pretty backwards when considered on it's own. The only reason to preserve it is out of habit and I think that this is (generally speaking) the worst possible premise to base decisions on. I mean, if we want to let people use fast user switching easily they first have to learn first about vt switch command ctrl+alt+Fn. Then they have to learn that the first login is on 7 and the subsequent ones are on 8 etc. This doesn't make sense... What *should* happen is that the first one is 1.. the second one is 2 etc. When I'm in gnome, and I switch to tty2 for the first time, rather than getty appearing wouldn't it be better if the gdm prompt appeared for a second graphical login? I'm not suggesting that we ditch text logins completely, but I'm just saying that we should try and make things generally smoother if they user has already opted for a graphical system. Switching to e.g. 7 or 8 should maybe default to providing a text login and gdm should maybe present a "give me a text login" option in which case that X server quits and getty replaces it. Anything unused should timeout and quit (e.g. a getty on tty2 unused should exit and wait and be re-activated as appropriate later. All these things are possible (maybe not without upstream support, but I can ask Ray about the general plans here from a gdm perspective). Just for reference this is how the seat extender USB things work. Little thin clients that you plug into USB that give you a keyboard mouse and display. When you plug it in for the first time, it registers a new seat and then gives you a gdm login prompt. I don't think mutli user should be much different from multi-seat in this regard. > BTW, I know fedora uses vt1 for X, but what about other distros, e.g. > Ubuntu/Debian? I don't think they default to it but plenty people try to change it to that according to Google. Col -- Colin Guthrie colin(at)mageia.org http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/ Open Source: Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/ PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/ Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/