2012/2/18 Olav Vitters <[email protected]>: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:50:45PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: >> The Gnome base is more than gnome-shell but less than Gnome in total. >> Example: Gnome config editor belongs to the basic Gnome, eog is a >> Gnome application. Same with KDE: kdm and the setup configuration are >> related to the environment, kmail is a KDE application. > > GNOME is not the same as KDE. > > Eye of GNOME is part of GNOME Core (things which should be installed > together): > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/core/3.3/3.3.5/sources/ > As it is part of Core, anything in GNOME is ok to assume that it is > installed. > > > There is a separate "apps" section listed at: > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.3/3.3.5/sources/ > These consist of applications which closely follow GNOME. Meaning: > they're QA tested, etc. > > > Aside from the "apps" section, there are loads of other modules. > Everything in total is at: > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ > You see e.g. xchat-gnome. Something in /sources/, but not in "Core", nor > in "Apps". It doesn't follow the GNOME release schedule, translation > freezes, etc. > > > Regarding eog: > Anything wanting to call eog within GNOME should of course use > freedesktop.org specifications. So if you've installed something other > than eog, it should still work. Still, from upstream POV it is a > distribution bug if there wasn't any image viewer installed. > > In practice, not installing everything by default should be more or less > ok. But that's not how things are released or assumed to be. It it just > by using freedesktop.org specifications that things still work. > > But things still working doesn't mean that eog is not assumed to be > installed. > > Anyway, I'm ok with discussing after Mageia 2 as suggested in another > email. I have no idea if "Core" + dependencies would fit on a cd anyway > (don't believe it would) + I can mention on > http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/ that Mageia 2 users should install > "task-gnome" to get the full experience.
I see your point and understand upstream POV of Gnome. The other POV is the user's POV who wants a "minimal" installation with Gnome as the basis but with a few applications only. IMHO this is what a "task-foo-minimal" is made for. So after this task-foo-minimal I have to install only : - web browser (for mail, www, downloads), - mc (filemanager), - vim (editor), - vlc (music, video), - mcc (including the draktools). Done. (just an example of what I would do for my netbook, others may want another set of applications). Going by the upstream POV we don't need a task-gnome-minimal at all, you can safely remove it. -- wobo
