On 20/04/12 19:27, Kristoffer Grundström wrote:
Hi!

Now & then I tend to loose my mind & install Ubuntu on one of my computers & the last time I did it I heard about PPA's. I added a PPA & noticed how fun it was to test the code that it offers.

This is the explanation of what PPA is & does according to the Ubuntu-page:

*"Personal Package Archives (PPA) allow you to upload Ubuntu source packages to be built and published as an apt repository by Launchpad."*

My idea would be something similar.

It starts with the user that gets annoyed how some Mageia-packages that are meant to be stable that they aren't. Instead of having to do the job themselves they can just add a special media called user-contrib that contains packages built from git-source to be tested in Cauldron & then released as Backport-version when confirmed stable enough to see if the issue they had on the officially stable package is gone.

I know that it would take many people to build thoose, but I'm willing to download git-code & compile & build for Mageia.

I've already managed to compile & build the latest official version of Transmission without using the official Mageia patches & I've got NO problem at all using the package.

Test theese packages & say what you think:

http://199.91.153.84/c75b5l1s469g/yljxa1e92l5mmix/transmission-debug-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm

http://199.91.152.243/2wm8pbg3k5eg/9th0m5xxslth99a/transmission-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm

/Kristoffer

Hi

I have thought about it before how it could be useful after Mageia 2 has been released for there to be PPA's or something like it for Mageia.

With Ubuntu PPA's are really just repo's that can be added by users so that they can get later versions of software that aren't in the Ubuntu repo's. With PPA's it's meant to be known as well that they may be buggy, because usually they have just been made by developers/packagers or something like that I think, and not gone through a proper Quality Assurance process. Really they are meant to be aimed at more experienced users, but it seems that more recently since 2008 or something like that, that quite a lot of less experienced Ubuntu users may also have at least one PPA installed. Also to many installed PPA's can cause issues with the Ubuntu install.

I have been thinking before about the current Mageia release cycle and when it comes to Gnome. Since the 9 months release cycle for example, it seems that sometimes a new major version of Gnome will have to be skipped, as in not offered by Mageia as an update for any supported stable final release at the time. I am not a developer, but I assume those versions of Gnome can be put into Cauldron and then backported to the current stable release as well, or put into something like a PPA for users to install into final Mageia releases. As for Cauldron it should keep on having the latest versions of Gnome, usually development versions.

In general most Desktop Linux users want the latest final versions of the software that they use it seems, and I think that it would be good if there was a easy way to offer this for most or all packages. This is where something like Ubuntu's PPA's would come in.

I think if Mageia has something like PPA's, they shouldn't need to require QA from the QA team and it should be known users and potential users that they may be buggy/unstable. Where as backports of course will have gone through the Mageia QA team process.

As for the PPA's themselves or the something like it, would need a website for it like they have for Ubuntu https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas and they should only be offered on the site from people who have gone through the Mageia packaging process and become trusted packagers I think.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-ppa-technology-explained/

https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA

From Sebastian sebsebseb


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