Anne nicolas a écrit :
2012/6/24 David Walser<luigiwal...@yahoo.com>:
Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
On Saturday 23 June 2012 15:21, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
The issue with the upgrade function at
the end of the installer is: "it is not working properly even if a
functioning network is available".
In all the years I have been running Mandrake, Mandriva and now Mageia, the 
upgrade packages function in the installer has not worked once
for me, that I can remember. So I always skip it.
I believe many others do the same.
Is that what the "feature request" is talking about?  If so, it's totally not 
clear.  It sounded to me like it was talking about the ability
for the installer to upgrade an existing system.  If it's just talking about that 
"install updates" thing at the end of the installation,
that's never worked for me either in the few times I've tried it.  It's also 
pretty unnecessary for me since I usually install from HDD or net,
which uses updates in the first place.
Indeed  I'm not speaking about updating packages at the end of the
installation but using a DVD to upgrade an already installed system

But using a DVD to upgrade an already installed system is a good way to get around the fact that many packages, including nonfree firmware, are missing from the DVD. If one does a clean install, one has to try to find a lot of missing packages, because they are no longer installed. This impacts considerably the usability of the system. (Considering what the user had installed.) All one has to do after the upgrade install, is reboot and do a normal upgrade with rpmdrake (selecting "all updates" and "all packages"), and almost everything works well. (For me upgrade to mga1 worked perfectly. The last 2 upgrades with mdv had some problems, due to other factors. A clean install has always caused me a lot of problems.) With a clean install, it can be problematic to find all the missing packages, as well as missing firmware.

Note that I don't use mgaapplet after an upgrade install, since it doesn't give me all the information I want, to help me decide if I should drop some packages that were installed. It may be that using mgaapplet after an upgrade install is the weak link in the chain. And certainly urpmi is not a convenient tool at this point. (Although I use it a lot at other times.)

Note also that with upgrade install, even firmware that is missing from the release (and not only the DVD) remains installed. So there are cases where an upgrade install necessarily produces a better functioning system.

So in sum, in my view, removing upgrade install for DVDs would be an important regression. But maybe we should suggest rebooting and using rpmdrake after such an install.

Regards :)

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André

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