2011/11/23 Thorsten van Lil <[email protected]>: > Am 23.11.2011 09:33, schrieb Oliver Burger: >> >> Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2011, 09:22:03 schrieb Alejandro López: >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:32 AM, D.Morgan<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Why ? openjdk is good enough to replace oracle java. >>>> and soonish we will have java7 too in mageia so i really don't see now >>>> the need of the closed source one. >>> >>> Everything you said is true, but let me disagree with your question. Why >>> not? Some users might prefer Oracle's java, while others might rather use >>> OpenJDK. As long as there are volunteers for maintaining both packages, >>> why >>> shou;d it be one or the other? Why not providing both? >>> >> let me answer this from another perspective. >> >> Mageia is an OpenSource project. So it should be our main goal to promote >> OpenSource software. >> So why should we bother to promote Oracle Jave by creating a workarround >> in >> our packaging system, when they are clearly moving away from the >> OpenSource >> community? > > Because the users expect to have it in the repositories. It may be used > against Mageia, if it is not in there (as for flash, proprietary drivers, > ...). > Where do we want to draw the line, as we did the same for skype? > > We propagate the repositories as one main advantage of Linux. Everything is > in one trusted source. No more seeking and downloading somewhere in the web > from several sites. Automated updates. How should the uninformed and lazy > user understand, that we didn't provide at least a "get-java" package?
Yes, you are right: where do we want to draw the line? 2 points: - Oliver talked about Oracle moving away from Open Source users. - Oracle java (as Adobe Reader) is not essential for the majority of users like flashplayer and proprietary drivers and firmware. Maybe these points provide the "line to draw" - otherwise we can move on to all kinds of closed source games and whatever. Users always "want", it is in their genes. -- wobo
