At 4:24 PM -0700 2004-09-30, Rob Lanphier wrote:

 Anyway, one thing that my users are constantly clamoring for is features
 that would come from tighter integration between GForge and Mailman.
 I've been mulling this over for a while, and it seems that deep
 integration is limited by the way that most Mailman data is stored in
 pickles.  Since GForge is coded and pretty heavily bound to PHP.

See <http://www.list.org/devs.html>. In particular:

                Mailman uses an inefficient persistency system based on
                Python pickles, and every mailing list has its own pickled
                state. This has several disadvantages, including poor
                scalability, difficulty in doing cross-mailing list
                operations, and the virtual host limitation on list names.
                Mailman 3.0 will use a real database, perhaps based on ZODB
                or BerkeleyDB. Again, the goal is to generalize the
                interface to the backend database so that others can be
                used, but choose one and ship it by default.

 I'm wondering if there are recommendations from this group.  I'm also
 wondering if there have been any movements/efforts in any of these
 directions already.

 This is one of many problems that I plan to work on over time, and plan
 to contribute patches to the extent that they are useful to a larger
 community.  If I'm lucky, I'll get budget to hire developers for this,
 but for now, I'll be doing this on the cheap.

You could funnel your work into Mailman3, and if you could get some budget to make that happen, then the project will be able to be shipped that much faster.


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