Barry, Nice document. I still feel like I do not know enough about the ramifications of stripping or not stripping the DKIM signature to be sure of the right default, and I still think we could use some more information and understanding of all of the factors. However, Your proposed default of not stripping the signatures seems reasonable, since at least it preserves the forensic information. At least Mailman sites will have the opportunity to adjust this should we find that one way or the other is clearly correct.
Thanks for putting the effort into studying this. Clearly, these (DKIM-like) technologies are not yet mature and there is a lot to consider (email and all of its possible interactions are quite complex), and I hope that the interaction (what has happened and what is to come) between the Mailman developers and the DKIM developers can help to make it all really workable! To make DKIM, or something like it, widely accepted as a standard, it clearly has to be able to handle mailing lists, and ideally, with good integration and good specs, it will be able to do so elegantly and deterministically (and not just "99%"). -Joe Barry Warsaw wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Feb 7, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> John W. Baxter wrote: >> >>> On 2/7/07 8:46 AM, "Barry Warsaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> Should we strip DKIM by default or not? >>> Not strip by default. >>> >>> Even though that changes the default vs the most recent Mailman, >>> it leaves >>> the default alone for everyone who jumps to 2.1.10 from earlier >>> versions. >> I think I am swayed by the arguments in this thread to favor Not Strip >> as the default, and I agree with John WRT its not being a behavior >> change for many. > > Me too. Here's my discussion on the topic, including a concrete > proposal for Mailman 2.1.10 and 2.2/3.0. Feel free to comment on the > wiki on in this thread. > > http://wiki.list.org/x/OgM > > - -Barry > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) > > iQCVAwUBRctro3EjvBPtnXfVAQIHMAP/X4kZL4llpLMLf0rtePsf15092VsF8Old > AMZmEvkJ/MtFT1mTm+cFjWg6i4/wUHfP2LIBr8AwNcO8MIUHUbjOB7fLCn41v93n > FIKLIlFp6liFqjv3167Mz1SRRnb5r5KAReyCoyRww+ogo/AgVn8HmekoG74DOwGp > v/SJuD1YcPQ= > =CuhH > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Mailman-Developers mailing list > Mailman-Developers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/joe%40skyrush.com > > Security Policy: > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp > _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp