Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Feb 11, 2010, at 04:48 PM, christian.ba...@orange-ftgroup.com wrote:
We (Coclico-project http://www.coclico-project.org/) have started some
work on a better integration of mailman and forges
Hi Christian,
This is really interesting work from a number of perspectives. You might be
aware that my day job is working on Launchpad <http://launchpad.net> which is
a Zope-based open source (AGPL) software hosting service developed by
Canonical for development of Ubuntu. As part of that work, I integrated
Mailman 2.x with Launchpad, and of course all of that code has been released
as part of Launchpad.
We did not override Security Manager, since we expose a much simpler (some bug
reporters would say *too* simple ;) admin interface to Mailman through the
Launchpad web ui. We actually don't expose the Mailman web ui at all. If
you're interested in more information about what we did, I'd be happy to
provide it.
Yes would be great, how do you install mailman? do you use debian/ubuntu
package?
We had a look at mailman 3.0 but as far as we understood it's still
under development
and there is not yet user interface, but a restfull api.
We didn't find any mailman package, which is the first show stopper, we
would be interested in testing it/ work on it, as one of my alternate
identity is bayle at debian dot org.
Any information about 3.0 packaging is welcome ;-)
(As an aside, I wonder if it would be interesting to find ways for Launchpad
to exchange information with the forges?)
Launchpad has many interesting pieces, that would probably fit in a
forge, it has a least the common goal of providing integrated tools for
developpers.
One of the Coclico project goal is to facilitate tools integration, and
especially focus on integration aspects like
Authentication/Session/Identification/Autorization and of course it
would be great to be able to share information between Forges and Launchpad.
Concrete use cases are :
- don't recreate users in all tools
- keep session between tools
- common group and autorization between tools, so project manager don't
have to redo for every tools
Your patches are to Mailman 2.1, but that version is in maintenance-only mode,
so we wouldn't be able to apply them to upstream. Our focus is on Mailman 3
and I would be really interested in any feedback and experience you might have
integrating that version with the forges.
We don't have (yet?) but of course we are interested in the fact that
the work will also be available for next mailman versions.
I know there is also some work made to integrate mailman and forge
forums, we would like to deal with too.
I'm very interested in this work too.
Manuel Vacelet gave some more informations.
Personnaly I like http://lurker.sourceforge.net/ as a list archiver, and
I consider that forums/lists/news/blogs are message threads with
different access, but are mainly of same nature and should probably be
more or less unified.
Our next step is to make mailman a forge plugin to demonstrate how it
could make easier to use mailing lists in forges.
I intend to work on integrating Mailman 3 with Launchpad sometime in the next
six months or so (I'm temporarily working on a different project at
Canonical). I suspect that the work to do this will have some overlap with
your work.
Don't hesitate to share info about it, we'll do too if we make some
progress on this.
Christian
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