Hi Barry and co.,
On 07/05/11 01:14, Barry Warsaw wrote:
I'm part of the new group that John Sullivan of the FSF has brought together
to look at migrating the Mailman wiki from Confluence to MoinMoin.
Excellent!
Though there's not much there at the moment you can see what we're up to
here:
https://gitorious.org/confluence2moinmoin
https://gitorious.org/confluence2moinmoin/pages/Home
http://lists.bjdean.id.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mmwiki
The administrative interface does have options to download for backup an XML
dump of the data. There's currently a big red warning saying it's disabled
"for security purposes", so I don't really know if it works, or what it gives
you. I'm certainly willing to give at least one member of your team
administrative access, and we can verify with the hosting provider that you
should be able to get the XML dump. If that's not enough data to do the job,
then we'll talk to the hosting provider about getting what you need.
If one of you has access to export the backup XML and send it through to
me (or point me to a download URL if it's large) I would think that
would be sufficient. We shouldn't need ongoing access to Confluence. I
would expect that we could analyse the initial data dump, build and test
the conversion process and then ask for one more export just before the
switch-over.
On the other hand if you'd prefer us to make the export please set up an
account for me and I'll see what I can do (I'm not familiar with
Confluence, so it might take me longer to find it and check that the
export was running as expected).
Nothing more from me at the moment. Mark might have additional comments since
he's probably the most frequent author on the wiki.
I agree with Mark's comments on MoinMoin - it does support most of what
you asked for in terms of history, attachments, groups and private
pages. User groups and accesses can be defined in anticipation of the
existence of a user account (ie you can define an acl which refers to a
user that doesn't exist yet). There's a bit of a security problem there
so I would think we'd also create user accounts with a random password
and the user's email address - which can then be used for a reset.
Until we see the XML export we can't really say how much of that data we
can get to in order to transform it across - but I'd be surprised if a
lot of that data was not available.
I was going to say that our meta-data (other than author and revisions)
support is a bit limited in moin1, however looking at the wiki pages in
Confluence is doesn't look like there's much more there (or at least
it's not being used). There may be better support in moin2 howver our
advice from Thomas Waldmann of MoinMoin
(http://moinmo.in/ThomasWaldmann) is that we should be aiming for 1.9 as
2 is not yet ready for production.
Thanks for your help!
No worries! Thanks for Mailman!
Cheerio,
Brad
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