On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Blake Winton <bwin...@mozilla.com> wrote: > On 08-04-12 19:24 , Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> On 04/08/2012 04:14 PM, Blake Winton wrote: >>> >>> Would it work for everyone if David licensed the archiver to Mailman >>> under the GPLv3+? >> >> It won't work for David. > > Well, that's not exactly what David said. ;)
No, that *is* what David said, and repeatedly. He will not license under GPL, period. What he has also said is that he would be happy to maintain his original distribution in parallel to a GPLed branch bundled with Mailman. He would be willing to do a (very) small amount of work to keep them in sync, I believe, but his releases will be under simplified BSD so any contributions that he is going to maintain must be licensed that way. This matters because, in practice, if there are significant contributions under GPL to the Mailman branch, it will become a real (though friendly) fork, and we will lose the benefit of David's maintenance because we'll have to integrate his changes into our branch. He won't do that for us any more. I personally see that as win-win. Barry doesn't, presumably because (1) to keep David as maintainer means that contributions either need to go through him (implicitly making themm BSD), or we'll need to do some legal dance to explicitly relicense every such contribution BSD (since in practice our contributor agreement will make any contribution to Mailman itself GPLv3+ only), which (2) implicitly gives David veto power over the bundled archiver. The reason I see it as win-win is that I don't think there will be a lot of contribution from the current Mailman core to David's archiver. There clearly is a lot of enthusiasm for something with social networking features, and David's archiver doesn't look like a good platform for that to me. Eventually, the recommended (and bundled) archiver will be something else. > (I'm not proposing he stops releasing it under S-BSD, just that he > re-licenses the copy in Mailman as GPL. David doesn't need to do anything. We just copy the code and release it in Mailman under the GPLv3+ like the rest of Mailman. That's just a special case of the main reason for using a BSD license. > So he can continue to work on the > code and release it under a permissive license, but Mailman can also use and > distribute it. ) There's nothing stopping us from doing that, not even the possibility of offending David. That's *why* he uses BSD in the first place, so we can do that if we want to. But he won't do it for us. _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9