On 10/26/2015 11:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 10/26/2015 02:14 PM, Marco Stoecker wrote: > >> I did attach the header from a recent message I got last week. I'm a >> member of a >> list and the sender sent this mail to 5 mailinglists on our server. Each >> member of these 5 lists got 5 messages. >> >> But the email, which I sent last week, with the attachement never made >> it to this list. How can I send the headers instead, cause this email >> would be very long? > > > I never saw such a message, even in the moderation queue because of size. > > You can view the raw message, select all the headers, copy and paste > them into a post. > > >> Did I understood right, all entry in /var/log/mailman/smtp file are made >> by mailman and in this case it could be an indicator that mailman send >> the email 5 times to each list? > > > Yes, the smtp log entries indicate each of the 5 lists received 5 > messages with message-id <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de>. > > Also, delivery from Mailman to Postfix seems slow, but that's a separate > issue and may not be a problem for you. > > >> And here is the corresponding entry in the /var/log/mailman/smtp file: >> >> Oct 22 10:40:33 2015 (897) <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> smtp to >> beisitz for 3 recips, completed in 21.833 seconds > ... >> Oct 22 10:41:39 2015 (897) <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> smtp to >> beisitz for 3 recips, completed in 10.615 seconds > ... >> Oct 22 10:42:32 2015 (897) <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> smtp to >> beisitz for 3 recips, completed in 10.289 seconds > ... >> Oct 22 10:44:09 2015 (897) <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> smtp to >> beisitz for 3 recips, completed in 11.101 seconds > ... >> Oct 22 10:44:28 2015 (897) <008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> smtp to >> beisitz for 3 recips, completed in 9.971 seconds > > > So we know that each list is receiving 5 copies of the message. I'm am > certain this duplication occurs in the MTA delivering to Mailman or > before and not in Mailman itself. > > The most helpful information would be the Postfix log entries from > several minutes before Oct 22 10:40:33 2015 up to Oct 22 10:44:28 2015, > This is the related mail.log entry:
Oct 22 10:40:05 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: connect from localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:05 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: BF9AD1C94: client=localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:05 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4901]: BF9AD1C94: message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: BF9AD1C94: from=<alexandrak...@web.de>, size=312694, nrcpt=5 (queue active) Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: ADDE72652: client=localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4901]: ADDE72652: message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/local[4903]: BF9AD1C94: to=<beisitz@localhost>, relay=local, delay=5.2, delays=4.9/0.03/0/0.3, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post beisitz) Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/local[4909]: BF9AD1C94: to=<vorstand@localhost>, relay=local, delay=5.3, delays=4.9/0.11/0/0.29, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vorstand) Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/local[4907]: BF9AD1C94: to=<kollegium@localhost>, relay=local, delay=5.3, delays=4.9/0.07/0/0.33, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kollegium) Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/local[4905]: BF9AD1C94: to=<gruppensprecher@localhost>, relay=local, delay=5.3, delays=4.9/0.05/0/0.36, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post gruppensprecher) Oct 22 10:40:10 wakis02 postfix/local[4902]: BF9AD1C94: to=<ak-leiter@localhost>, relay=local, delay=5.3, delays=4.9/0.02/0/0.39, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ak-leiter) Oct 22 10:40:11 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: BF9AD1C94: removed Oct 22 10:40:12 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: connect from localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:12 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: 2AFF52697: client=localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:12 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4921]: 2AFF52697: message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: ADDE72652: from=<alexandrak...@web.de>, size=312704, nrcpt=5 (queue active) Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/local[4909]: ADDE72652: to=<vorstand@localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0.01/0/0.35, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vorstand) Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/local[4905]: ADDE72652: to=<gruppensprecher@localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0/0/0.35, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post gruppensprecher) Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/local[4903]: ADDE72652: to=<ak-leiter@localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0/0/0.35, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ak-leiter) Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/local[4902]: ADDE72652: to=<beisitz@localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0/0/0.36, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post beisitz) Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/local[4907]: ADDE72652: to=<kollegium@localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0.01/0/0.36, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kollegium) Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: 8010E3A: client=localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4901]: 8010E3A: message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> Oct 22 10:40:21 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: ADDE72652: removed Oct 22 10:40:23 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 2AFF52697: from=<beisitz-boun...@waldorfkindergarten-erlangen.de>, size=314124, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 22 10:40:23 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: 63AC226AE: client=localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:23 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4921]: 63AC226AE: message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> Oct 22 10:40:27 wakis02 postfix/smtp[4937]: 2AFF52697: to=<n.rau...@gmx.net>, relay=smtp.1und1.de[212.227.15.183]:25, delay=16, delays=11/0.17/0.17/4.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Requested mail action okay, completed: id=0MUQrq-1ZyZK12VWs-00R3sy) Oct 22 10:40:27 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 2AFF52697: removed Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 8010E3A: from=<alexandrak...@web.de>, size=312694, nrcpt=5 (queue active) Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/local[4903]: 8010E3A: to=<gruppensprecher@localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0/0/0.32, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post gruppensprecher) Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/local[4909]: 8010E3A: to=<vorstand@localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0.01/0/0.32, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vorstand) Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/local[4902]: 8010E3A: to=<ak-leiter@localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0/0/0.33, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ak-leiter) Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/local[4907]: 8010E3A: to=<kollegium@localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0.01/0/0.33, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kollegium) Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/local[4905]: 8010E3A: to=<beisitz@localhost>, relay=local, delay=11, delays=11/0/0/0.34, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post beisitz) Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: 8251C2697: client=localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4901]: 8251C2697: message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> Oct 22 10:40:32 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 8010E3A: removed Oct 22 10:40:33 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: disconnect from localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:33 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: connect from localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:34 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 63AC226AE: from=<beisitz-boun...@waldorfkindergarten-erlangen.de>, size=314101, nrcpt=2 (queue active) Oct 22 10:40:34 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: 230E52694: client=localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:34 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4921]: 230E52694: message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> Oct 22 10:40:38 wakis02 postfix/smtp[4937]: 63AC226AE: to=<ema...@mail.de>, relay=smtp.1und1.de[212.227.15.167]:25, delay=15, delays=11/0.13/0.18/4.2, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Requested mail action okay, completed: id=0LkPdb-1aMsY51RPP-00cMXf) Oct 22 10:40:38 wakis02 postfix/smtp[4937]: 63AC226AE: to=<ema...@mail.de>, relay=smtp.1und1.de[212.227.15.167]:25, delay=15, delays=11/0.13/0.18/4.2, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Requested mail action okay, completed: id=0LkPdb-1aMsY51RPP-00cMXf) Oct 22 10:40:38 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 63AC226AE: removed Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 8251C2697: from=<alexandrak...@web.de>, size=312695, nrcpt=5 (queue active) Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: 98DC6269A: client=localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/local[4905]: 8251C2697: to=<beisitz@localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.35, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post beisitz) Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/local[4902]: 8251C2697: to=<ak-leiter@localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.35, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ak-leiter) Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/local[4903]: 8251C2697: to=<gruppensprecher@localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.35, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post gruppensprecher) Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/local[4909]: 8251C2697: to=<kollegium@localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.36, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kollegium) Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/local[4907]: 8251C2697: to=<vorstand@localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.36, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vorstand) Oct 22 10:40:43 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4901]: 98DC6269A: message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> Oct 22 10:40:44 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 8251C2697: removed Oct 22 10:40:45 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 230E52694: from=<ak-leiter-boun...@waldorfkindergarten-erlangen.de>, size=314166, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 22 10:40:46 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4920]: E1EE526B3: client=localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:46 wakis02 postfix/cleanup[4921]: E1EE526B3: message-id=<008b01d10ca4$eb5fd0b0$c21f7210$@de> Oct 22 10:40:50 wakis02 postfix/smtp[4937]: 230E52694: to=<ema...@mail.de>, relay=smtp.1und1.de[212.227.15.183]:25, delay=17, delays=12/0.32/0.2/4.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Requested mail action okay, completed: id=0MUjgO-1a1LbG1CxA-00Y9t2) Oct 22 10:40:50 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 230E52694: removed Oct 22 10:40:54 wakis02 postfix/smtpd[4898]: disconnect from localhost[::1] Oct 22 10:40:54 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 98DC6269A: from=<alexandrak...@web.de>, size=312696, nrcpt=5 (queue active) Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/local[4905]: 98DC6269A: to=<gruppensprecher@localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.38, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post gruppensprecher) Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/local[4907]: 98DC6269A: to=<kollegium@localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.39, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post kollegium) Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/local[4903]: 98DC6269A: to=<vorstand@localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0.01/0/0.39, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post vorstand) Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/local[4909]: 98DC6269A: to=<beisitz@localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.4, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post beisitz) Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/local[4902]: 98DC6269A: to=<ak-leiter@localhost>, relay=local, delay=12, delays=11/0/0/0.4, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post ak-leiter) Oct 22 10:40:55 wakis02 postfix/qmgr[1304]: 98DC6269A: removed ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org