I may be looking in the wrong logs; the first set was from /var/maillog

I don’t see the expected messages sent to the -owner lists in 
/var/logs/mailman/smtp , even for lists we are getting the correct 
notifications from.


> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote:
> 
> On 1/25/22 16:27, Bruce Johnson via Mailman-Users wrote:
>> This is the mail log for the arrivale and dispostion of the test (moderated) 
>> message:
>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: connect from 
>> localhost.localdomain[::1]
>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: E0AAF16006A: 
>> client=localhost.localdomain[::1]
>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/cleanup[2123]: E0AAF16006A: 
>> message-id=<mailman.5289.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_facu...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/qmgr[16969]: E0AAF16006A: 
>> from=<pharmtox_faculty-boun...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>, size=1426, nrcpt=1 
>> (queue active)
>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: disconnect from 
>> localhost.localdomain[::1]
>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: connect from 
>> localhost.localdomain[::1]
>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: E2F4B160ADE: 
>> client=localhost.localdomain[::1]
>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/cleanup[2123]: E2F4B160ADE: 
>> message-id=<mailman.5291.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_facu...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/qmgr[16969]: E2F4B160ADE: 
>> from=<pharmtox_faculty-boun...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>, size=13239, nrcpt=1 
>> (queue active)
>> Jan 25 16:18:48 dhbmailman1 postfix/smtpd[2120]: disconnect from 
>> localhost.localdomain[::1]
> 
> 
> which is strange. I would expect to see Postfix log messages similar to this.
> 
> Jan 25 16:57:41 msapiro postfix/local[109148]: 57AAE3403CE: 
> to=<li...@msapiro.net>, relay=local, delay=0.4, delays=0.15/0.09/0/0.15, 
> dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /var/MM/21/mail/mailman post 
> list1)
> 
> 
> However, it appears that the first 
> message-id=<mailman.5291.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_facu...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
>  is a message from mailman to pharmtox_faculty-owner and the second 
> message-id=<mailman.5289.1643152728.2706.pharmtox_facu...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
>  is Mailman's resend of that to the actual owner address.
> When Mailman holds a message it may send a notice to the sender of the 
> message and then if owner/moderator should be notified, it sends that notice 
> to the -owner address and then when it receives that it resends it to the 
> actual owners/moderators.
> 
> There is also info about sent messages including message-ids in Mailman's 
> smtp log
> 
> -- 
> Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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College of Pharmacy
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