Hi, I feel the same way, hence still running Mailman2 (on RHEL8). It is simple and low CPU hit, however Red Hat stops it support in May 2024.
Containers are really useful where done well but I tried 2 or times to get mailman3 going on RHEL9 with podman and even docker and failed. I think Debian12 does mailman3? worth a go if so. In my case I am not allowed to run an unsupported OS and app. regards Steven ________________________________ From: Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2023 6:57 am To: mailman-users@python.org <mailman-users@python.org> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Where's the installation directions / source, etc, please? On 7/17/23 10:54, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: > > I used to use plain-ole mailman, WAY back in the '90s, BEFORE mailman2 > and LONG before mailman3... And I sure wish mailman2 had been done by > people who had a sense for the challenges for normal non-developer > system managers to deal with the software they actually developed. I'm > sure it's fine if you're already a Django programmer and use > "containers" all the time, but I'm not a Django fanboy, don't ever care > to be, and think the idea of containers is inappropriate technology for > a hell of a lot of use-cases, especially a small, self-run, no-budget > installation. I think you are referring to Mailman 3, not Mailman 2. > So, I'm done with it and want to go back to the old stuff. I'll happily > build from source, etc. But my simplistic web searches haven't returned > results and I'm afraid I didn't keep great records about it back when > since it was just a part of my Fedora package system! > > So, any pointers for this long-in-the-tooth Fedora Sys Admin? 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You can also find tarballs for releases back to 1.0 at <https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fftp.gnu.org%2Fgnu%2Fmailman%2F&data=05%7C01%7Csteven.jones%40vuw.ac.nz%7Cbb812fd72e0143a85ade08db86f7e174%7Ccfe63e236951427e8683bb84dcf1d20c%7C0%7C0%7C638252171430413839%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IZ3ZrHx56%2FmSgSKMJ9kcvBk4iJQs0mVCWOrkVjduvTs%3D&reserved=0<https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/>>. -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. 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