On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 6:55 PM Carl Zwanzig <c...@tuunq.com> wrote:
> On 5/4/2024 1:45 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 7:54 PM Carl Zwanzig <c...@tuunq.com> wrote: > >> Last I checked, MM3 was just not suitable for a small set of smaller > >> lists and to be maintained by less experienced people. > > > > In what aspects was it not suitable? I have never encountered a document > > stating that. > > Of course not, that's my opinion- every time I look at what it takes to > install MM3, it seems like a lot of work for the results. If I need to > run a few lists of tens of people, I don't want to spend multi-hours > doing the setup. Kind of like using a 10 tonne lorry to move a table and > chairs; it just doesn't make sense. > A lot of time? I think that's relative to the experience one has on as a Sysadmin. Can you try it by following - https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html - and report the time it took you to have a functional list? You will most likely spend multiple hours on it when using the OS packaging system, which is;t recommended anyway. The virtualenv method is the recommended one. > >> Perhaps that's changed, has it? > > I am not able to answer that before I get the answer to my question > above. > > There you have it. MM2 has been quick and easy to install and configure > and light on the resources, MM3 appears to need a lot more. (How long > does it take to install and configure a complete and usable MM3 > installation? What are the resources needed? At one time, I ran MM2 on a > 90Mhz Pentium and it did the job; there's a 2006 list post about it.) > Again, "how long" will depend on one's familiarity with the applications being glued together. Not standard timing. How long does it take for MM2? > > Did you also know that MM2 relies on Python2.7 (Recommended) which was > > already EoLed? > > Um, I've known that for years, thing is MM2 -still-works-! This might be > why there seem to be a fair number of MM2 installs out there in production. > > My first MM2 install was probably 18-20 years ago. > I had my 1st MM2 install in 2005, IIRC. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 In an Internet failure case, the #1 suspect is a constant: DNS. "Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-) [How to ask smart questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@jab.org