I found the info about my problem in the README files, finnally, and found an error message while logged in as mailman. I'm using securelinux and hardlinks are turned off, or some suchness. Good thing to know if it mysteriously dies, but one thing, how do I turn off the hard link restrictions? Thanks a lot, --Mike B. / Yellofish Software ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users