well here it goes,

poseidon.sitedomain.com is hosting (www.)debate.umcp.org

there are two mailing lists, "team" and "announce"

the web side of the hosting works fine.

mail send to those lists does not bounce

any mail sent by those lists (or by mailman itself) does not get sent,
mail is just sitting in qfiles (and yes, the crond is running qrunner)

(I've included tails of the relevant logs)

If anyone needs any more info, let me know...

==> post <==
Sep 19 10:35:01 2001 (17800) post to team from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=133, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) post to announce from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1323, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) post to announce from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=69, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) post to team from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1307, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) post to team from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=752, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) post to team from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1178, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) post to team from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=64, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) post to team from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=133, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) post to announce from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1323, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) post to announce from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=69, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) post to team from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1307, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) post to team from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=752, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) post to team from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1178, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) post to team from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=64, 1 failures
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) post to team from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
size=133, 1 failures

==> smtp <==
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.002 seconds
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection
refused')
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.003 seconds
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection
refused')
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.002 seconds
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection
refused')
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.002 seconds
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection
refused')
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.002 seconds
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection
refused')
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.002 seconds
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection
refused')
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.002 seconds
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection
refused')
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.002 seconds

==> smtp-failure <==
Sep 19 10:35:01 2001 (17800) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:36:01 2001 (17831) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)
Sep 19 10:37:00 2001 (17837) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore)




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