Michael,
With respect, I disagree.
It's one thing to read a civil request such as "Please read the FAQ and manual at
<URL> before asking questions here". It's quite another to go through the FAQ, the
manual, a Google search, and a reinstall before asking a question on a mailing list -
and then having to endure the sarcastic, churlish, infantile taunts I got from a
certain list member who has "wannabe" written between the lines on all of his posts.
Mailing list software setup is complicated from the start; more so because it requries
expertise in several different areas that Linux newbies don't often have: MTA setup
and configuration, compiler options, library maintenance, group/user permissions, and
cron. A lot can go wrong, and the installation HOWTO's are written by volunteers whom
often lapse into technocratese during their explanations.
Let's remember that the objective or a "users" list is to help USERS, not provide an
excuse for self-aggrandizment by the self-absorbed. Every disappointed newcomer who is
scared off this list by abuse from a certain jackass is going to become an advocate
for Microsoft when his employer asks for an opinion about which software to buy.
We were all new to this once. One list member has, apparently, decided to stop growing
and start mocking those whom will soon pass him by.
FWIW. YMMV. HAND.
R-E
(flames to /dev/null - serious replies on or off list as you see fit)
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From: "Michael Johnson - fw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] is there any way to have Mailman NOT to send
out monthly membership reminder?
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:22:22 -0700
I'm not one to fuel arguments, but I think sometimes people get a little
short when the same questions appear over and over again and people don't
even try to help themselves before seeking help from others. I'm not saying
that's what's happening here.
I really don't think RFTM is rude--it's reality. If more people did it
there'd definitely be less general confusion and that's, in fact, what the
docs are for--issues such as this. When you see how few people even BOTHER
to try to do anything correctly simply because they know they can go ask
someone else who did bother on a list, it really makes you question why
people don't use Onelist or YahooGroups or whatever they're calling
themselves these days.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Mick
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 9:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] is there any way to have Mailman NOT to
send out monthly membership reminder?
> > It's not, eh?
> >
> > Then what do you call this, in crontab.in?
> > # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
> > 0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
> >
> > "RTFM" indeed! Which M did you have in mind?
>
> THAT, is for *every single* list on the server. Each and every list
> has its OWN flag to turn ON or OFF the monthly reminders. Read The FINE
> Manual.
Look, Ashley, turning off monthly membership reminders was the
question, and using the crontab entry is an answer. It's not
a per-list answer, yes; that wasn't the question.
Ram your attitude.
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