Hello!
I'm administering a list using Mailman 2.0.6. I'm sorry I cannot upgrade
it to the latest version (I have no access), but I don't see any changes
related to bounce detection in the NEWS for 2.0.7 and 2.0.8.
The attached message was forwarded to the administrator instead of being
detected as bounced e-mail.
Despite the Polish beginning it has the address in angle brackets and
mentions "quota". It comes from MAILER-DAEMON. It also quotes the
original message and contains its message-id.
Please use your judgement whether another rule based on the attached
message should be added or not. Add it only if you think it won't result
in false positives.
Another related idea - maybe Mailman should add the destination address to
a special header (e.g. X-Mailman-Recent-To or standard Envelope-to) to
detect more reliably whose mail bounces? For additional reliability (to
avoid rewriting the address) the address could be encrypted or represented
by a number from the database.
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Regards,
Pavel Roskin
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Witaj. Ta wiadomosc zostala wygenerowana przez system pocztowy
Wirtualnej Polski (informacje: http://poczta.wp.pl/oserwisie/).
Dostarczenie Twojej wiadomosci okazalo sie niewykonalne, nasz
serwer pocztowy nie bedzie staral sie wyslac jej ponownie.
Dokladna przyczyna niedoreczenia listu znajduje sie ponizej.
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I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
The users mailfolder is over the allowed quota (size).
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:39:54 -0500 (EST)
Hi, Fr=E9d=E9ric!
> There's welcome.msg and welcome2.msg. I probably receive the
> latter because I don't have reverse DNS.
First of all, ftp.gnome.org resolves to 2 different ip addresses: =20
130.239.18.137 (tutankhamon.acc.umu.se) and 130.239.18.173
(napoleon.acc.umu.se)
Only welcome.msg mentions "CodeFactory AB". It also has some ANSI=20
sequences to highlight the big "ACE" banner.
I only have addresses with reverse DNS and I always get welcome.msg. The=
=20
greeting in Swedish is apparently not a port of either welcome.msg or=20
welcome2.msg.
You may want to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have any problems. It=
=20
makes no sence to discuss it between us.
> Anyway, I don't know why people from Brazil are always
> redirected to some Swedish server.
Well, because all IP addresses associated with ftp.gnome.org are hosted in
Sweden. It's quite hard to make DNS reply differently dependent on the
one location of the client. Akamai provides this service (I think so,
their site lacks any details). But even the FTP server of the Linux
kernel doesn't use this technology (as far as I know) - users have to
choose mirrors themselves.
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Regards,
Pavel Roskin
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