Hello, I think that this might be another tricky RPM issue..
I can send mail with elm just fine, however when mailman tells me it is sending me a note (either from the web interface or the command line) it never gets to me. I've snipped most of these log files, but think there is likely relevant stuff here: # cat logs/error Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): Traceback (innermost last): Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 222, in ? Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): main() Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 203, in main Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): process_lists(lock) Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 148, in process_lists Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist) Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 75, in open_newsgroup Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD) Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 111, in __init__ Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): self.sock.connect((self.host, self.port)) Jan 15 01:30:01 2002 gate_news(30747): socket . error : (111, 'Connection refused') # cat logs/post Jan 15 01:33:00 2002 (30758) post to mike from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=1369, 1 failures # cat logs/smtp-failure Jan 15 01:34:01 2002 (30762) -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ignore) Also, I'm also not sure if this is relevant, but this error is coming up and I still don't know how to fix it (other than ditch the RPM and go from the tarball) # bin/check_perms Traceback (innermost last): File "bin/check_perms", line 50, in ? MAILMAN_GRPNAME = grp.getgrgid(MAILMAN_GID)[0] TypeError: illegal argument type for built-in operation I'm also still confused by this Also, as I'm using sendmail, I would have configured it from the tarball using: --with-mail-gid=mail However I don't have that option and so need to know how to set this with the rpm version. This might be the source of the problem, however I'm sure that Red Hat would have tried to put that default into their config as they ship with sendmail... Thanks again for your previous help.. It's working much better now.. Mike -- Mike Gifford, OpenConcept Consulting, http://www.openconcept.ca Supporting progressive organizations in online campaigns and tools. Feature: Women's Learning Partnership http://learningpartnership.org Truth is that which confirms what we already believe. Northrop Frye ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users