Hi Jon,  Here is the logs directory.

# ls -ltr
total 20
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman      454 Mar 11 13:37 subscribe
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman        0 Mar 11 14:06 error
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman       98 Mar 11 14:08 post
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman      963 Mar 11 14:29 smtp
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman        0 Mar 11 15:52 vette
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman     6756 Mar 11 16:16 qrunner

I did not have a "vette" file, so I created with cp /dev/null vette
"vette" and "error" give nothing.  "post" gives the sole message
that was delivered:

Mar 11 14:08:04 2003 (11306) post to mailman from [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
size=1825, success

"smtp" shows other messages that were received, and that form part
of digest.mbox, though they were never delivered:

# more smtp
Mar 10 18:56:41 2003 (9505) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, 
comple
ted in 0.420 seconds
Mar 10 19:22:53 2003 (9615) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, 
comple
ted in 0.724 seconds
Mar 11 13:28:38 2003 (10957) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 
recips
, completed in 0.275 seconds
Mar 11 14:07:44 2003 (11299) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 
recips
, completed in 0.821 seconds
Mar 11 14:08:04 2003 (11306) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp 
for 2 recips, completed in 0.739 s
econds
Mar 11 14:08:22 2003 (11316) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 
recips
, completed in 0.373 seconds
Mar 11 14:29:48 2003 (11454) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 
recips
, completed in 0.693 seconds

qrunner shows a completely normal qrunner.

I am beginning to suspect that, with so much "tweaking," I may
have corrupted permissions.  "check_perms" still says "No
problems found."  I wonder whether anyone can look into the
Mailman and the tests directories (just for random sampling)
and say whether their permissions are 755 or 775.  I think
I am looking at a re-install, without really knowing what to
do differently. :-(  Many thanks, elena

Mailman directory (in part):

drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman      512 Mar 10 18:52 Archiver
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman     1608 Mar 10 18:50 Autoresponder.py
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman     1117 Mar 10 18:52 Autoresponder.pyc
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman    12108 Mar 10 18:50 Bouncer.py
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman    10639 Mar 10 18:52 Bouncer.pyc
drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman     1024 Mar 10 18:52 Bouncers
drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman     1024 Mar 10 18:52 Cgi
drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman     1024 Mar 10 18:52 Commands
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman    51978 Mar 10 18:50 Defaults.py
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman    19587 Mar 10 18:52 Defaults.pyc
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman     5644 Mar 10 18:50 Deliverer.py

tests directory (in part)

-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman     2279 Mar 10 18:52 EmailBase.py
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman     1878 Mar 10 18:52 TestBase.py
drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman     1536 Mar 10 18:52 bounces
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman     1358 Mar 10 18:52 fblast.py
drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman      512 Mar 10 18:52 msgs
-rwxr-xr-x   1 mailman  mailman     2521 Mar 10 18:52 onebounce.py
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman     2430 Mar 10 18:50 paths.py
-rw-r--r--   1 mailman  mailman     7288 Mar 10 18:52 test_bounces.py
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