>>>>> "John" == John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>     on Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:55:53 -0500 writes:

    John> Martin,
    John> Have you read through these messages?  
yes, (of course)!

    John> Some of the ones I get include "out of office"
    John> messages or other auto-generated messages that aren't
    John> really "bounce" messages.  I.e., they don't indicate a
    John> problem delivering the mail.

    John> My theory is that when I have time I will try and filter out the most 
    John> common ones with procmail or the like.

    John> But you certainly don't want someone's account
    John> disabled because of some of these messages.

agreed.
But here I give an example of one where I think mailman should
have figured it out:

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
  Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:58:45 +0100 (MET)

  The original message was received at Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:58:44 +0100 (MET)
  from hypatia.ethz.ch [129.132.58.23]

     ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

     ----- Transcript of session follows -----
  ... while talking to akasolvr.vub.ac.be.:
  >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  <<< 553 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User mathie.roelants unknown at vub.ac.be
  550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown

     ----- Message header follows -----



    John> Martin Maechler wrote:
    >> We have upgraded to 2.1.1 about 2 weeks ago.
    >> We have about 20 mailing lists, totalling about 70-100 messages
    >> a day -- although mainly from one 1-3 lists.
    >> 
    >> I've been getting half a dozen "Uncaught bounce notification"
    >> messages a day, and had been ignoring them more or less --
    >> hoping mailman would somehow do things automagically.
    >> Now that I've read the related info more carefully, I realize
    >> these are just the bounces that mailman is *not* able to deal
    >> with automatically.
    >> I've looked at some and really wondered _why_ mailman couldn't
    >> figure out the E-mail address that bounced when it looked very
    >> obvious to the human eye.
    >> 
    >> - Hints?
    >> - To whom could I forward examples of these?

    John> -- 

    John> John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own

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