Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

Richard Barrett Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:06:01 -0700

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 11:35 PM, Cody Harris wrote:

If it was suddenly unprofessional to not use HTML and use XML, would you follow?

The use of XML and HTML are not equivalent.

Using XML to semantically markup data for transmission via email is justified where it is used to remove ambiguity in the data; I contrast this with the XML markup generated with similar objectives to HTML markup by some popular PC applications in particular.

IMNSHO filling people's mail boxes, burning their bandwidth and spam and junk mail filter performance with mail tarted up using HTML is not justified.

HMTL email is for the most part, like much HTML markup on web pages, a triumph of form over content.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Customer & Technical Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mailman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
HTML in email sucks. If I want to see a damn web page I'll go to the URL. Most people use HTML to dress up spam or otherwise hide the fact that they had nothing worthwhile to say anyway. I filter ALL HTML out of any mail I get. Its extremely unprofessional to use.

At 07:17 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:

HTML allows the e-mails to be well layed out. Things to be bolded to ppl don't have to hunt for them. Wait a minute, i'm not sending to the
mailman
list! I'm sending to you. Oops ^_^. Anyways. I'' just add it to CC.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
For me, I'm anti HTML emails for our clients because of the extra
traffic
that it incurs.

On 7/15/03 3:12 PM, "Cody Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Why is that people are anti HTML? How about if sites went anti html?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Buscema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
Ha... I'm in the same boat really... I discouraged the client from
sending
HTML emails, but they insisted. The email recipients actually
prefer
the
HTML vs plain text now, to my surprise. We use Mailman to send the
daily
emails, but we do not use Mailman for list management (at least for
this
list). The management is handled through the web site itself
(skyy.com)
using MySql. A user creates an account, then from there they can
subscribe
to a list. We want the daily messages to have a link with a unique
ID
in
it
for a quick unsubscribe. I had the method all worked out, then we
went
w/
HTML emails :(

don't send HTML :-)

Seriously, though, I asked the same thing, and Barry basically
vetoed
it.
if you find a way (even with a local patch), I'm all eyes.

I have a $CLIENT that would love it.

LER
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