On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 05:08 PM, Davin Dahlgren wrote:
We are using Mailman 2.1 and when the bounce handling is turned on, the
from: field in the messages shows up as something like:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; on behalf of; Davin
Dahlgren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actually the From: field in the message is not what your MUA is displaying. The From: header of messages passing through Mailman usually have the email address of the person posting to the list; Mailman doesn't normally mess with the From: headers of a post.
It looks from the headers of your post to the list (X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627) as though you, and presumably your boss, are using Microsoft Outlook as your MUA.
What you (and/or your boss) are probably suffering from is described in the Mailman FAQ, see:
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp
At the expense of some reduction in bounce handling capability you can shorten the bodged-up 'From' field Outlook is displaying by turning off VERP'ing; in your problem example this will reduce:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
An alternative thing you can try, is a hack at the file $prefix/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py. If you change line 342 in the function bulkdeliver() from:
msg['Sender'] = envsender
to:
msg['Sender'] = mlist.GetListEmail()
then it will (hopefully) shorten:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
in your problem example and you should be able to leave VERP'ing on.
The only risk with this hack is that any response sent to the address in the Sender: header gets sent to the list not to the list's bounce alias. But an MTA generating a bounce message should not be using the address in the Sender: header of the message but the address of the sender from the envelope of the SMTP transaction, which should be the list's VERP'ed bounce alias, as we would want.
But no warranty with the hack. Take a copy of SMTPDirect.py before you start. Be careful with the editing. Remember source code indentation is syntactically significant with Python. Try some tests, including adding duff mail addresses to your test list to see what happens when things bounce.
Let us know how you get on.
My boss thinks this looks like spam and he's freaking out that he's losing money because of it. Is there any way to use the bounce handling features without having the long from: address header?
Does version 2.1.2 fix this?
No, because MM is doing it right already. But if you are not running 2.1.2, the latest stable release, now is the time to upgrade; it has a number of real bug fixes and enhancements over 2.1
Thanks, Davin
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