On Saturday, July 26, 2003, at 07:26 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:


On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 03:39:20PM -0400, John DeCarlo wrote:
Harmon,

I agree this is a bit confusing for most people, including me. Mailman
seems to generate the HTML pages so it can add specific information
about your installation.

When does it do that? I've done the install, ran the bin/newlist mailman,
started qrunner, but there is no http://my.domain/mailman/




Have you followed _all_ the instructions in the INSTALL file in the Mailman build directory?


In particular have you put the necessary Alias and ScriptAlias and related directives in your httpd.conf file, per the installation instructions?

If not then URLs commencing http://my.domain/mailman/ (such as http://my.domain/mailman/admin and http://my.domain/mailman/listinfo) will not be available as the web server will not know how to launch the Mailman CGI programs concerned that dynamically generate these web pages.

The Mailman web admin GUI and listinfo functions are all delivered by CGI programs that form part of the Mailman installation. These pages are generated dynamically as they present relatively volatile data; for instance it changes, when you create a new list or a new user subscribes or the list admin changes a configuration option or a message is held for moderation. Trying to maintain a set of static HTML pages to represent this and allow maintenance of the static pages through web forms makes little sense. Instead Mailman CGI scripts generate pages/web forms dynamically from MM's database contents.

The only static MM web pages are the HTML list archive pages and even those are delivered by an MM CGI program in the case of private list archives.

Which version of MM are you running? MM 2.1.2 one hopes but your reference to the qrunner hints at an earlier version. If this is a new installation you would be advised to use the latest stable release: 2.1.2


If you want to look at some of the HTML templates Mailman uses, look in
the templates/en (or any language you plan to use) at the HTML files.


Harmon Seaver wrote:

I'm just doing the initial install, almost finished, but so far I
haven't been
able to determine where the mailman page comes from -- is there a sample
html
page included in the install package or does that page have to be created
from
scratch?
I've read a whole lot of documentation but I must be missing something
here.

--


John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own



-- Harmon Seaver
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com


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