>>>>> "rr" == Raquel Rice >>>>> "Re: [Mailman-Users] Debian Back-Port?" >>>>> Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:57:52 -0800
rr> On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:56:16 -0500
rr> "John A. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>>>> "rr" == Raquel Rice "[Mailman-Users] Debian Back-Port?"
>> >>>>> Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:07:52 -0800
>>
rr> Does anyone know of back-ports for Debian.
>>
>> For stable, way too hard to be useful, IMHO.
>>
rr> current Debian stable version of Mailman is 2.0.11.
>>
>> But currently
>>
>> apt-get install mailman/unstable
>>
>> will get you mailman-2.1.3-2 and pull in all the needed
>> dependencies. You might want to use the -u switch as well while
>> apt-listchanges is your friend to keep you from being surprised
>> too much by the dependencies being upgraded. Maintenance will
>> be easier using apt_preferences(5).
rr> I'm new to Debian,
Perhaps I should have mentioned also 'man sources.list(5)'.
rr> so I'm not sure of what all this means. However, I am trying
rr> to figure it all out ... and not just wanting a "free ride".
It's more of a concern that a "Do this" may just tell someone how to
shoot their foot off.
rr> I read "man apt-get". The -u option is listed but blank.
,----[ man apt-get ]
....
-u
--show-upgraded
Show upgraded packages; Print out a list of all packages that
are to be upgraded. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Show-
Upgraded.
`----
rr> I'm reading "man apt_preferences" now.
rr> I'm still trying to find information on apt-listchanges.
,----[ dpkg -s apt-listchanges ]
Package: apt-listchanges
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: utils
Installed-Size: 296
Maintainer: Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 2.42
Depends: python (>= 2.3), apt (>= 0.5.3), python-apt, debconf, ucf
Suggests: x-terminal-emulator, www-browser, debianutils
Conffiles:
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20listchanges 39204938ee32c5ebd503167ace5c1d0c
Description: Display new Debian changelog entries from .deb archives
apt-listchanges is a tool to show what has been changed in a new
version of a Debian package, as compared to the version currently
installed on the system. It does this by extracting the relevant
entries from the Debian changelog file, usually found in
/usr/share/doc/package/changelog.Debian.gz
.
It can be run on several .deb archives at a time to get a list of all
of the changes that would be effected by installing or upgrading a
group of packages. It can be configured to do this automatically
during upgrades using apt.
`----
I find apt-show-versions(1) indispensable when managing a mixed
system. The following shows a reasonable Mailman box. (O'Well,
pflogsumm-1.0.10 is not well matched to the current Postfix
snapshots.)
,----[ apt-show-versions -a -r -p \
'postfix|pflogsumm|bind9|apache|python|mailman' ]
apache-common 1.3.29-1 install ok installed
apache-common 1.3.26-0woody3 stable
apache-common 1.3.29-1 unstable
apache-common/unstable uptodate 1.3.29-1
apache-ssl 1.3.29-1 install ok installed
apache-ssl 1.3.26.1+1.48-0woody3 stable
apache-ssl 1.3.29-1 unstable
apache-ssl/unstable uptodate 1.3.29-1
postfix 2.0.16-20031207-1 install ok installed
postfix 1.1.11-0.woody3 stable
postfix 2.0.16-4 unstable
postfix: No available version
python2.3-iconvcodec 1.1.2-1 install ok installed
No stable version
python2.3-iconvcodec 1.1.2-1 unstable
python2.3-iconvcodec/unstable uptodate 1.1.2-1
apache-utils 1.3.29-1 install ok installed
No stable version
apache-utils 1.3.29-1 unstable
apache-utils/unstable uptodate 1.3.29-1
python2.1 2.1.3-20 install ok installed
python2.1 2.1.3-3.2 stable
python2.1 2.1.3-20 unstable
python2.1/unstable uptodate 2.1.3-20
mailman 2.1.3-2 install ok installed
mailman 2.0.11-1woody5 stable
mailman 2.1.3-2 unstable
mailman/unstable uptodate 2.1.3-2
python2.1-email 2.5.4-2 install ok installed
No stable version
python2.1-email 2.5.4-2 unstable
python2.1-email/unstable uptodate 2.5.4-2
python2.2-optik 1.4.1-2 install ok installed
python2.2-optik 1.3-1 stable
python2.2-optik 1.4.1-2 unstable
python2.2-optik/unstable uptodate 1.4.1-2
python2.3 2.3.2.91-1 install ok installed
No stable version
python2.3 2.3.2.91-1 unstable
python2.3/unstable uptodate 2.3.2.91-1
bind9-host 1:9.2.3-2 install ok installed
bind9-host 1:9.2.1-2.woody.1 stable
bind9-host 1:9.2.3-2 unstable
bind9-host/unstable uptodate 1:9.2.3-2
python 2.3.2.91-1 install ok installed
python 2.1.3-3.2 stable
python 2.3.2.91-1 unstable
python/unstable uptodate 2.3.2.91-1
pflogsumm 1.0.10-1 install ok installed
pflogsumm 1.0.4-1 stable
pflogsumm 1.0.10-1 unstable
pflogsumm/unstable uptodate 1.0.10-1
python2.2 2.2.3-7 install ok installed
python2.2 2.2.1-4.2 stable
python2.2 2.2.3-7 unstable
python2.2/unstable uptodate 2.2.3-7
bind9 1:9.2.3-2 install ok installed
bind9 1:9.2.1-2.woody.1 stable
bind9 1:9.2.3-2 unstable
bind9/unstable uptodate 1:9.2.3-2
`----
Here is what controls upgrades. Works for me, YMMV.
,----[ /etc/apt/sources.list ]
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main
#deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main
#deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main
deb http://archive.progeny.com/debian/ stable main
#deb-src http://archive.progeny.com/debian/ stable main
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
#deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main
#deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main
deb http://archive.progeny.com/debian/ unstable main
#deb-src http://archive.progeny.com/debian/ unstable main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
#deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main
`----
,----[ /etc/apt/preferences ]
Package: postfix
Pin: release a=experimental,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian
Priority: 1001
Package: pflogsumm
Pin: release a=unstable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian
Priority: 1001
Package: bind9
Pin: release a=unstable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian
Priority: 1001
Package: mailman
Pin: release a=unstable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian
Priority: 1001
Package: coreutils
Pin: release a=unstable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian
Priority: 1001
Package: libacl1
Pin: release a=unstable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian
Priority: 1001
Package: textutils
Pin: release a=unstable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian
Priority: 1001
Package: fileutils
Pin: release a=unstable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian
Priority: 1001
Package: shellutils
Pin: release a=unstable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian
Priority: 1001
Package: debianutils
Pin: release a=unstable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian
Priority: 1001
`----
HTH
jam
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