>>>>> "Trey" == Trey Nolen
>>>>> "[Mailman-Users] Mailman problem on Debian"
>>>>>  Sun, 4 Jan 2004 11:50:52 -0600

    Trey> I had to do an update on one of our unstable machines
    Trey> today. It is (was) running Mailman. Now, when I run Mailman,
    Trey> I get this:

    Trey> --begin errors mail2:/etc/mailman# /etc/init.d/mailman start
    Trey> Traceback (most recent call last):
    Trey>   File "/var/lib/mailman/bin/list_lists", line 47, in ?
    Trey>     from Mailman import MailList
    Trey>   File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 49, in ?
    Trey>     from Mailman.Archiver import Archiver
    Trey>   File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/__init__.py", line
    Trey>   17, in ?
    Trey>     from Archiver import *
    Trey>   File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line
    Trey>   31, in ?
    Trey>     from Mailman import Mailbox
    Trey>   File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 25, in ?
    Trey>     from email.Generator import Generator
    Trey>   File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Generator.py", line 16, in
    Trey>   ?
    Trey>     from email.Header import Header
    Trey>   File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Header.py", line 41, in ?
    Trey>     USASCII = Charset('us-ascii')
    Trey>   File "/usr/lib/python2.3/email/Charset.py", line 220, in
    Trey>   __init__
    Trey>     input_charset = _ascii_lower()
    Trey> TypeError: _ascii_lower() takes exactly 1 argument (0 given)
    Trey> Site list for mailman (usually named mailman) missing Please
    Trey> create it; until then, mailman will refuse to start

That looks the same as Debian Bug #226086

        http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=226086

I believe Debian users are better served by looking first at Debian
Bugs and "bugging" the Debian package before going upstream.  I am
under the impression that most Debian packagers prefer that and that
the Debian packagers will pass bugs upstream when appropriate.

In this case we have

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Received: (at 226086) by bugs.debian.org; 4 Jan 2004 17:15:52 +0000
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jan 04 11:15:50 2004
To: "John A. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bug#226086: mailman: dpkg-reconfigure mailman TypeError
From: Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 14:38:53 +0100

[snip bug report]

This is a bug in the newest python package; reassigning.
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HTH

        jam

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