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From: "Anoetic Concepts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Web accessibility
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 22:26:41 -0700

Brad Knowles wrote:

I have been informed that many visually challenged people use
Internet Explorer instead of Netscape...

Internet Explorer is used because of a development hook built into it called MS Active Accessibility which allows screen access software to gather information about the page which is normally not provided in the rendered page. I have read that Foxfire which apparently looks much like IE is going to be implementing MSAA or something similar, but this is only rumor at this point and has certainly not been done yet.

and while some advanced features may be turned off, others (like
Javascript) are apparently typically kept turned on because many
pages require them.

Actually, I have left the default IE settings and not turned anything off. As I said, MSAA allows my screen access software to "speak" the text quite well and it provides additional information such as announcing links and visited links, images, form fields, and so on.

Nevertheless, this is for a given subset of the visually
challenged community.  For people who are completely blind, this
method probably won't work and alternative methods would have to be
used.

Not true. As I said, with MSAA, pages which conform to the W3C specifications are easily rendered by speech access software. Of course, anyone with enough vision to require only magnification rather than speech access would not need any special rendering of the page. In these cases, the most common need is the ability to adjust colors to a higher contrast.

To answer the specific question about Mailman pages, they are
perfectly accessible.  I have no problems with them whatsoever.

Jeff, the Ultra guy
http://www.UltraHost.US
http://www.UltraRadio.US

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