Thanks, all for the excellent dialog on this. Couple follow-up questions from the uninitiated...
-is there general agreement that if I'm not VERPing or single treading, then once the Mailman smtp log shows "complete" that I'm good to go to change the list? -the path to the Mailman smtp log? -I've got a default Plesk install of Mailman. I.e. I haven't looked below the hood beyond the Mailman web interface. Can I assume I'm not VERPing nor single threading? (i see that i can prob look here:) <snip> VERP settings within Mailman are done on a per-installation basis - ie they affect all the lists within the installation. To configure VERP within Mailman read the information in ~mailman/Mailman/Default.py for the options that start with VERP. In a nutshell, all you need to do to enable VERP with Exim is to add these lines to ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py: VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = 1 VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = 1 VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = 1 VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 </snip> Thanks!! m -----Original Message----- From: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:10 AM To: Mark Sapiro Cc: Brad Knowles; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Wondering how long to send messages At 6:40 PM -0700 2004-08-27, Mark Sapiro wrote: > But wouldn't those stragglers be queued in the MTA? The question is at > what point can one delete someone from the membership list without > causing a prior post to that person to not be sent? A lot depends on how the mailing list is configured, how the MTA is configured, etc.... If you're VERPing the recipients, it could take a while to work through them all for a big list. If you're not VERPing the recipients, you could have the group at the bottom of the list held up while the mailing list tries to deliver stuff to recipients higher on the list but for which there are DNS problems causing the MTA to be slow to accept them. The answer remains "it depends". > I'm not sure, but it seems to me that once the "completed" entry is > written to the Mailman smtp log, changes to the membership list won't > affect the message recipients of that post. Can you be sure which "completed" entry corresponds to which post, and which other messages might be in the process of being handled? That is, unless you want to single-thread all delivery to the list, so that you don't post a new message until you can be sure that the previous post has at least had all copies of the outgoing message accepted by the local MTA, even if those messages have not yet been delivered to their recipients. -- Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
