>>>>> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Brad> Clearly, there is a benefit here to the Gmane users, Brad> potentially even a commercial benefit. But what do they Brad> contribute back to the larger Mailman community? I don't think that's a useful question to ask. Open source is not about paybacks. (Although copyleft clearly is, to many people.) Open source is about payforwards. I do something for you, and you do something for somebody else. What goes around, comes around, eventually. I think Gmane qualifies on that score: I know a lot of contributors to open source projects who think Gmane makes their work more effective. In the case of Gmane, I know the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address; I can't think of any code contributions off the top of my head, but John has impressed me as someone who makes good contributions to discussion on several lists. I'd be sorry to lose his contributions, even though I'm not willing to follow his lead in this case. Isn't his support (along with others like him) enough to qualify Gmane as a "contributor"? IMHO, it should be. Brad> If they were to actually operate by the rules they Brad> espouse, [...]. But we know they're not operating by those Brad> rules. Aye, there's the rub. I don't much like the rules that they actually play by. The procedures are biased toward producing mistakes of this kind. And by the nature of their service they tend to impose their standards for privacy protection etc on the lists that they gateway. The combination is not appealing for Mailman, I'm afraid. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp