That's what I was afraid of. I just don't want to be annoying to people and hoped there might be a way to tell if it was time to remove a name from the list (other than bounce counting). Sally Scheer
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sally K. Scheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <Mailman-Users@python.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] how to tell if messages are being received? > Sally K. Scheer sent the message below at 10:17 5/9/2006: > >I have an announce-only mailing list I've just moved from majordomo to > >mailman during a change of hosts. I mass subscribed the people who had been > >on our list in majordomo and got a bunch of unsubscribe requests right after > >that. Made me wonder how many people might be just dumping our messages or > >filtering them out or their ISPs (especially AOL and Hotmail) are marking > >them SPAM and never delivering them to my subscribers. Is there any way, > >short of a return receipt request on the message, to find out where messages > >are actually going? > ---------------- End original message. --------------------- > > Nope, there sure isn't. > > And even return receipt isn't foolproof as users can refuse to send > them. Not that it would be a good or responsible way of determining anything. > > There is really nothing you can do about how users utilize your list. > Those who want it will try to make sure they get it. Those who don't > will either unsubscribe or filter it out. > > Dragon > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp