Brad, Thank you for your insightful response. Still trying to work with the ISP postmaster.
Thanks again, Phil Philip Arcuni Chairman, Information Technology Committee United States Power Squadrons ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Phil usps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Users List Mailman" <Mailman-Users@python.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Internet Service Providers and Spam > At 9:08 AM -0400 2006-05-09, Phil usps wrote: > >> We are in the middle of a contest with a very large, popular, and >> well-established ISP, who insists on declaring as spam, any message sent >> to >> more than 100 of its customers. Since it is "spam", it is automatically >> bounced, and hundreds of our list members not only do not receive the >> message, the Mailman bounce features handle the bounce action as >> instructed. >> This can lead to "disable" or "discard". > > All your attempts to work around this problem are likely to result in more > pain and hassle for you. If the messages are legitimate, you need to work > with the ISP in question. If they refuse to do that, then cut them loose > and tell everyone who is a customer of that ISP that they are not welcome > on your lists. > > If you do anything else, said ISP is likely to consider your efforts to be > the same as any regular spammer that tries to by-pass their anti-spam > efforts, and will treat this as proof that you are, in fact, spamming > their members. > > > Yes, this includes AOL, Yahoo!, hotmail, and all the others. > > Yes, I was Sr. Internet Mail Administrator for AOL, and I have personal > experience from the other side. I know how they work. That's part of why > I don't work there anymore. > > -- > Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania > Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 > > LOPSA member since December 2005. See <http://www.lopsa.org/>. > > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
