Below in the /var/log/maillog file, why are the 4 posts sent to testlist-bounces? I was assuming that there would be one post for each of the four list members (dud1,dud2,dud3,dud4). Is it normal to see the testlist-bounces? I have set up a mailertable on the receiving side of Sendmail that will accept all mail from domain.gov and send it to the mailman delivery agent. On the sending side of Sendmail I do not use this mailertable and have set up a smart relay to relay the domain.gov messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and also set the Sendmail MTAHost on the send side to this same machine. I have verified that I can send email directly from the server that I have Mailman on to this remote MTA via Sendmail. I agree with your assessment that Mailman seems to be trying to post the message to the list members. But, why is Mailman trying to relay through localhost. I set up my DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my mm_cfg.py file. The localhost will not recognize the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address but the [EMAIL PROTECTED] server should. I have not overridden the default DELIVERY_MODULE="SMTPDirect". By the way, I am truly sorry that I am so dense on this stuff. You are doing a great job trying to guide me through the jungle.
________________________________ From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 6/8/2006 2:04 AM To: Daniel, Barry K. Cc: Patrick Bogen; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: RE: RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Sendmail debugging questions Daniel, Barry K. wrote: > > /usr/local/mailman/log/smtp > Jun 07 09:28:34 2006 (2096) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to testlist for 4 > recips, completed in 0.088 seconds Your post was sent to 4 recipients. > Jun 07 09:28:37 2006 (2096) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to testlist for 1 > recips, completed in 0.105 seconds Note: in the above and in what follows I have tried to remove (for readability) the <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and similar 'mailto:' links added by your MUA. 3 seconds later a single, mailman generated message was sent - maybe a notice to the list owner? > Jun 07 09:28:37 2006 (2096) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to testlist for 1 > recips, completed in 0.068 seconds and another > Jun 07 09:28:37 2006 (2096) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to testlist for 1 > recips, completed in 0.086 seconds and another > Jun 07 09:28:38 2006 (2096) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to testlist for 1 > recips, completed in 0.084 seconds and another > Jun 07 09:28:39 2006 (2096) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to mailman for 1 recips, > completed in 0.090 seconds and another > Jun 07 09:28:39 2006 (2096) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to mailman for 1 recips, > completed in 0.094 seconds and another > Jun 07 09:28:39 2006 (2096) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp to mailman for 1 recips, > completed in 0.097 seconds and another for a total of 7 Mailman generated messages, each to a single recipient? > /var/mail/maillog > Jun 7 09:28:33 domainwcs1 sendmail[4490]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSX8Z004490: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1806, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<fa3eb410418 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, > relay=domainmta1.domainpriv.gov [10.31.162.9] The original post is received by the MTA > Jun 7 09:28:33 domainwcs1 sendmail[4492]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSX8Z004490: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=mailma > n, pri=121806, relay=domainwcs1.domainpriv.gov, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent and delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 7 09:28:34 domainwcs1 sendmail[4495]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSY8Z004495: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=2990, class=-30, nr > cpts=4, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, > relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] The post is received from Mailman for 4 recipients. > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4499]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZYg004499: from=root, size=4698, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<200606071328.k57DSZYg > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some other message is received by the MTA from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4500]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZ8Z004500: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=4915, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<2 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] and relayed to localhost > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4499]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZYg004499: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/1), delay=00 > :00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=34698, relay=[127.0.0.1] > [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (k57DSZ8Z004500 Message accepted for > delivery > ) and accepted for delivery to testlist-bounces, so it appears to be a bounce (last 3 entries) > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4497]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSY8Z004495: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, > mailer=mailman, p > ri=266990, relay=domainwcs1.domainpriv.gov, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent The original message for 4 recipients (k57DSY8Z004495) is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (but this may refer to the bounce) > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4505]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZUR004505: from=root, size=4698, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<200606071328.k57DSZUR > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4506]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZ8Z004506: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=4915, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<2 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4505]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZUR004505: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/1), delay=00 > :00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=34698, relay=[127.0.0.1] > [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (k57DSZ8Z004506 Message accepted for > delivery > ) And another bounce relayed and accepted for delivery > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4497]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSY8Z004495: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=mailman, p > ri=266990, relay=domainwcs1.domainpriv.gov, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent And another 'Sent' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4511]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZoI004511: from=root, size=4698, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<200606071328.k57DSZoI > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4501]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZ8Z004500: to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces testlist", > ctladdr=<test > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> (1/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, > pri=35136, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4512]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZ8Z004512: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=4915, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<2 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4511]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZoI004511: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/1), delay=00 > :00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=34698, relay=[127.0.0.1] > [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (k57DSZ8Z004512 Message accepted for > delivery > ) > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4497]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSY8Z004495: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=mailman, p > ri=266990, relay=domainwcs1.domainpriv.gov, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Another set of 4 culminating in a 'Sent' to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but here there is an additional entry (second of 5) which is actual delivery of the first bounce to the mailman wrapper. > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4517]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZdU004517: from=root, size=4698, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<200606071328.k57DSZdU > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4507]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZ8Z004506: to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces testlist", > ctladdr=<test > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> (1/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, > pri=35136, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4518]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZ8Z004518: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=4915, class=0, nrcpts=1, > msgid=<2 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4517]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZdU004517: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/1), delay=00 > :00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=34698, relay=[127.0.0.1] > [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (k57DSZ8Z004518 Message accepted for > delivery > ) > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4497]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSY8Z004495: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=mailman, p > ri=266990, relay=domainwcs1.domainpriv.gov, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent And another, now familiar set, I think the generation of the bounce of [EMAIL PROTECTED] plus the delivery to mailman of the second bounce. > Jun 7 09:28:35 domainwcs1 sendmail[4513]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZ8Z004512: to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces testlist", > ctladdr=<test > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> (1/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, > pri=35136, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent > Jun 7 09:28:36 domainwcs1 sendmail[4519]: [ID 801593 mail.info] > k57DSZ8Z004518: to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces testlist", > ctladdr=<test > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> (1/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, > pri=35136, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent and finally, the delivery to Mailman of the last two bounces. So mailman is sending the post to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], the MTA is accepting the post and then ultimately bouncing all 4 addresses. This is an MTA configuration or other issue. The MTA (Sendmail) either can't deliver to these addresses or won't relay to them from localhost. This doesn't appear to be a Mailman issue. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
