Brad Knowles writes: > I just don't have the answers to the questions you're asking me.
That's fine. > Moreover, I don't think that it's reasonable for you to respond to me > in this manner. What have I ever done to you? Since you ask, lots of nice things. I've certainly benefited from your contributions to these lists and the FAQ. Thank you! I'm not sure what you mean by "manner", but the reason I responded is that I got triggered by the juxtaposition of "us vs. them" language with "GPL". I agree that there's a justification for a feeling of "us vs. them" between Mailman and the companies mentioned, but in my experience the GPL normally contributes to such antagonism, and I've never seen the GPL help alleviate it. So I want the GPL out of the discussion (unless the companies are in violation of their license, which seems possible---that's why I asked for evidence). > When have I ever said anything that would lead you to believe that > I would have the kinds of answers you require Aren't you the guy who was there when the Postel Principle was coined? <wink> You're right, I should ask Barry, but Barry's not here right now that I can see, and you usually do have answers, good answers. > to these extremely loaded questions you're asking? What's loaded about the questions? True, my phrasing assumed that you probably knew the answers to the questions, but I didn't mean to imply any obligation for you to know them. Your post asks for more than the GPL does. I agree that it would be good if these companies would participate actively in the community. But I'm more confused than ever why you cited the GPL in support of that, since you write: > But if you want to argue the finer points of the GPL with someone, my > response is going to be that none of this would be a problem if > they'd just use a BSD-like license instead and then be done with > it. > As such, I'm not going to be your foil for your GPL holy war, and if > you want that then you would be better off looking elsewhere. All I want w.r.t. the GPL is that downstream do what it explicitly demands, since that is the license Mailman uses. And maybe Mailman should consider asking for source code from these companies, to improve support for not a few users. Steve ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp