Ken Winter did speak thusly: >Thanks for the responses on copying customized HTML files.
You are welcome and I am surprised that this has not been discussed before. This is something that really deserves a FAQ entry. If I have time later to do so, I may work one up. If not, and somebody else has the motivation, go for it. >Dragon was right about the location of customized files: >/usr/local/mailman/lists/<listname>/<language>/. Alas, I don't have the >permissions to write to those dirs, so it's back to cut-and-paste on the web >site. Well that is a problem. :-( Can you get one of the server admins to do it for you or to add you to the mailman group so you can? >Some other comments are inserted below. Likewise. >~ Ken > > On 9/6/06, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The templates are stored in the filesystem, in a variety of different > > places depending on whether you're talking about the standard > > as-shipped language dependent versions, the standard as-shipped > > language independent versions, the site-wide language independent > > versions, site-wide language dependent versions, list-specific > > language independent versions, or list-specific language dependent > > versions, and that's just the six different potential combinations > > that I can come up with off the top of my head -- I'm pretty sure > > that there are some others that I haven't thought of. > > I didn't even know there *were* list-specific versions of that; could > you tell me where they end up if they're created? > >Mine (for an English language list) are in >/usr/local/mailman/lists/<listname>/en/<docname, e.g. listinfo.html>. I >assume that if you have different languages you have to customize your HTML >pages separately for each language. That seems to be the case but I have not tested this out or dug into the code to confirm. > > How you would pick and choose which specific templates are to be > > considered as part of the configuration for a given list would be a > > complex subject. > >If all of a list's customized HTML pages are under >/usr/local/mailman/lists/<listname>/<language>/, they are part of that >list's configuration, and should be copied to the corresponding dirs for the >target list's. That would seem to be the logical course of action. Since these customized versions are under each list directory, it should be a fairly simple matter to modify the code to copy them to the new list directory. > > Do you copy the site-wide versions or not? > >I'm not sure where these live or how they get established. If there is such >a thing as a site-wide configuration, I'd say cloning (copying) that >configuration to another site would be a separate operation or utility from >cloning (copying) a list's configuration. The latter, whether between sites >or within a site, should take just that list's specific configuration >(including customized HTML files), leaving the list to inherit the target >site's factor-installed or site-wide configuration that have not been >customized for this list. The site-wide templates for each language are located on my system in the directory /usr/local/mailman/templates/<language> These would not have to be copied because they act as the default. In theory, these files are the "factory default" version unless you modify them. Since I have custom versions of these files in the default directory, my only "factory default" versions are those in the source distribution. The unfortunate thing here is that when I upgrade from one version to the next, I have to back up my versions, do the install which overwrites my files and then copy my files back. I suppose I ought to do a diff and create a patch file to make this easier in the long run. > > If you > > do copy them, do you install them in the list-specific locations on > > the other end, or do you install them in the appropriate site-wide > > location? > >In the site-wide location(s), whatever they may be. As stated above, this is /usr/local/mailman/templates/<language> > > And what if there are conflicts? > >Since a particular HTML file appears in >/usr/local/mailman/lists/<listname>/<language>/ only if it has been >customized, I don't see how there could be any conflicts. If a page has >note been customized, wouldn't that list just inherit the site's version of >that page? That appears to be the case. Dragon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium capti sumus) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp