Jewel writes: > I run a Mailman server and have noticed more recently that it seems spam > is being posted to some lists
Is it actually getting through to the lists? The fact that the spam score was zero suggests that it does, and that your "Barracuda" spam filter has no teeth. You should look into this. > but when I look at the headers the message was only posted to the > mailman-owner or the owner of the list. How is this happening? This really isn't a question for this list (it's a general mail question), but as long as I'm here.... First, you may have software that removes duplicates, and even if you were addressed several times, you probably get the list-owner version first due to list processing delays, and the list version gets suppressed. If you want to see what got to Mailman, you can look at the "mbox" file in the list's archives. (Presumably Mailman functions normally on the outgoing side, so that's all you really need for this purpose.) Second, the headers that you post here do not tell the whole story. Specifically, the addresses that your host actually delivers to are not listed in the headers. (Sometimes the particular mailbox you find the message in is; in your case it's the "Delivered-To" header. However, *other* deliveries are not mentioned in your message.) The addresses in the headers you see have nothing to do with where delivery takes place[1], except by grace of the author. Spammers are nothing if not graceless! To understand why this *must* be so, consider CCs to hosts on the "other side" of the Internet; your host can't know if they were sent, let alone delivered. Or BCCs ("blind carbon copies") received by your host---since they can't appear in the headers you receive by definition, there must be another way to tell the system where to deliver them. This is what is called the "RFC 2821 Envelope Sender". http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2821.txt That's pretty rough stuff, though. Maybe somebody else (the Mailman FAQ?) has a good reference to a primer? Footnotes: [1] Strictly speaking, there are any number of cases where they are the same, but that's because those authors are graceful, or use graceful software. :-) ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp