there are log entries in maillog that say 
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/smtpd[2573]: connect from 
listserv.mydomain.com[127.0.0.1]
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/smtpd[2573]: 0C3CA2184C3: 
client=listserv.mydomain.com[127.0.0.1]
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/cleanup[2576]: 0C3CA2184C3: 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/qmgr[2438]: 0C3CA2184C3: from=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, size=3775, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/smtpd[2573]: disconnect from 
listserv.mydomain.com[127.0.0.1]
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/smtp[2580]: 0C3CA2184C3: to=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, relay=mydomain.com[10.180.50.2], delay=0, status=bounced (host 
mydomain.com[10.180.50.2] said: 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(in reply to RCPT TO command))
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/cleanup[2576]: 34EAD2184EA: 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/qmgr[2438]: 34EAD2184EA: from=<>, size=5858, 
nrcpt=1 (queue active)
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/qmgr[2438]: 0C3CA2184C3: removed
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/local[2577]: 34EAD2184EA: to=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (delivered to command: 
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman)
  Dec  4 09:15:07 listserv postfix/qmgr[2438]: 34EAD2184EA: removed
     
  If that part where is says "removed" means that they are off the list - they 
aren't.
   
  This is the vette log says:

  
Dec 04 08:25:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:25:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:30:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:30:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:35:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:35:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:40:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:40:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:45:04 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:45:04 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:50:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:50:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 08:55:03 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 08:55:03 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:00:04 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:00:04 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:00:05 2006 (2762) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:00:05 2006 (2762) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:05:05 2006 (2374) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:05:05 2006 (2374) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:10:03 2006 (2374) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:10:03 2006 (2374) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:15:03 2006 (2374) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:15:03 2006 (2374) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
  Dec 04 09:20:04 2006 (2374) -request/hold autoresponse discarded for: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  Dec 04 09:20:04 2006 (2374) Mailman post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] held, 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Post by non-member to a members-only list
   
  I am very confused.  Could the fact that it wont relay to my local domain be 
the problem?
   
  ken

Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Ken Cheney wrote:
>
>Given that I am very new to Mailman/Postfix/Linux... where would I find the 
>MTA logs?


Maybe /var/log/maillog; maybe somewhere else.


>how would I tell if the message made it to mailman.


There will be a maillog entry indicating the message was delivered via
a pipe to the wrapper as in "|path/to/mail/mailman leave listname" in
the case of mail to listname-leave.


>Come to think of it I have seen in logs where it say [EMAIL PROTECTED] has 
>been removed from the list. Yet my email address is still on the list.


Did you subsequently resubscribe? Were you removed from one list and
still on another? Are you confusing the list owner with list members?

Mailman's subscribe log should have all the subscribe and unsubscribe
activity.

-- 
Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan



 
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