At 11:35 AM -0500 12/14/06, Ryan Steele wrote:

>  Yes, I realize this.  But, there's no reason for the log to indicate
>  that <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  was being considered as an indiscernable address.

That's not quite what happened.  Let's go back to an earlier message, 
where you quoted:

>  And here is a message from Mailman's bounce log:
>
>>  Dec 13 09:42:38 2006 (2202) bounce message w/no discernable addresses:
>>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  Dec 13 09:42:38 2006 (2202) forwarding unrecognized, message-id:
>>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In the case of the first line, it's telling you that some sort of 
message was received to the -bounces address for the list, but it's 
not something that Mailman recognized as a bounce that it could 
parse.  But it did identify the message in question, although it 
didn't specifically use the term "message-id".

In the second line, it did explicitly use the term "message-id", but 
it's still talking about the same message with the same problem, only 
now it's telling you that it's forwarding this message to a human.


>                                                     It ought to have been
>  able to extrapolate the real AOL address of the sender, don't you think?

Whatever happened, I'm sure that Mailman would have been able to 
determine who the claimed sender of the message was.  The problem was 
that, for some reason, it was delivered to the -bounces address for 
the list (as opposed to some other address), and yet it was not 
formatted like any bounce that Mailman knows how to recognize.

The fault here almost certainly is not with AOL per se, nor with 
Mailman.  The fault lies in however a message that was intended to be 
posted to the list was instead somehow delivered to the -bounces 
address, and then dealing with the fallout from that situation.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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