Bob McClure Jr wrote:
>
>1) # ps auxww| grep mailmanctl |grep -v grep
>mailman   7087  0.0  0.3  13048  1672 ?        Ss    2006   0:00 
>/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start
># ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon'
>mailman   7087  0.0  0.3  13048  1672 ?        Ss    2006   0:00 
>/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start
>mailman   7097  0.0  0.5  12912  2508 ?        S     2006   0:00 
>/usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s


Seven of eight qrunner processes are missing. Please reread FAQ 3.14,
sec 1, and let us know how to emphasize that all eight qrunners should
be running.


>6) Locks:
>
># ls -l ~mailman/locks
>ls: /usr/lib/mailman/locks: No such file or directory


I think in FC4 you'll find them in /var/locks/mailman.


>7) Logs:  The only things in the logs are the subscriptions:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# cat qrunner
>Feb 25 04:08:42 2007 (7087) Master watcher caught SIGHUP.  Re-opening log 
>files.
>Feb 25 04:08:44 2007 (7097) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGHUP.  Reopening logs.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# cat subscribe
>Feb 26 17:42:35 2007 (10359) foobarlist: new [EMAIL PROTECTED], admin mass sub
>Feb 26 17:42:35 2007 (10359) foobarlist: new [EMAIL PROTECTED], admin mass sub
>
>   The only thing in error is the result of running mailmanctl with no
>   arguments.  /var/log/mailman/smtp is zero-length.


Your logs rotate. (The default for Fedora is weekly for 4 generations I
think.) Check the old qrunner.[1234] and error.[1234] logs to see if
there is info there as to why the qrunners died.

Meanwhile, manually do 'bin/mailmanctl stop' and 'bin/mailmanctl
start'. Don't do just a restart.


>8) Qfiles: # ls -l ~mailman/qfiles
>ls: /usr/lib/mailman/qfiles: No such file or directory
># locate qfiles
>/usr/lib/mailman/bin/show_qfiles


I think they're in /var/spool/mailman, and you'll find all your
messages in the 'in' queue and the 'virgin' queue and they will be
sent when Mailman's qrunners are running again.


>   Okay, with this and (6), I'm wondering if some directories are
>   missing.  But if so, why is (or was) the other list functioning,
>   and why is there nothing in the logs about it?


They're not missing. You just aren't looking in the right places. And
the log entries have rotated to older logs or oblivion.


>What clues am I missing?


See above.

-- 
Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>       The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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