Greetings, I've been unable to find answers for two problems that have been plaguing me for about a week or so now, and decided to turn to the list for help. We're running Mailman on an IBM server with RedHat 2.6.9-42.0.10.EL-i686
The first problem is that messages sent to one of my lists (750+ members) don't get propagated out to all the members. At this point, I'm not sure what percentage is receiving and what percentage isn't receiving, but based on small samplings, I think it's safe to conclude that more aren't receiving than are. Checking the post log, I see the following for test messages I've sent to the list; I know of 5 people who have received it, of which I am not one: Jun 19 10:47:31 2007 (32175) post to usmtalk from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2800, message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 7 failures Jun 19 15:20:28 2007 (32175) post to usmtalk from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2646, message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 7 failures One person has been trying to send a message to the list for the last week; he's tried 3 times and, although he's received all of my test messages to the list, he has not seen his own messages come through. I myself have not received any email from the list in around a week, and quite a few others have received no messages at all either. I'm unable to get cooperation from our server admins to get messages traced as they go through our rather complex email system, and am told this is a Mailman problem, so I figured I'd see what the experts think might be possible situations. The other issue we're facing, which I'm also told by the server admins is an internal Mailman problem, is that often the Mailman processes, while outwardly appearing to run, just "stop" working; mail gets queued up, and I have to restart the Mailman service to get the queue moving again. In the Mailman error log, I'm seeing the following tracebacks on an almost minute-by-minute basis: Jun 19 20:22:04 2007 (11284) Uncaught runner exception: Jun 19 20:22:04 2007 (11284) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 273, in send_i18n_digests msg = mbox.next() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/mailbox.py", line 35, in next return self.factory(_Subfile(self.fp, start, stop)) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 41, in _safeparser return email.message_from_file(fp, Message) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py", line 63, in message_from_file return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parse(fp) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 218, in _parsebody payload[start:terminator]) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/sre.py", line 156, in split return _compile(pattern, 0).split(string, maxsplit) MemoryError Jun 19 20:22:04 2007 (11284) SHUNTING: 1182289757.230494+ae5c970b2a7ffee54cafa14a22bf0a5b052b671e Jun 19 20:23:11 2007 (11284) Uncaught runner exception: Jun 19 20:23:11 2007 (11284) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91, in process send_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132, in send_digests send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 273, in send_i18n_digests msg = mbox.next() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/mailbox.py", line 35, in next return self.factory(_Subfile(self.fp, start, stop)) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 41, in _safeparser return email.message_from_file(fp, Message) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/__init__.py", line 63, in message_from_file return Parser(_class, strict=strict).parse(fp) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 64, in parse self._parsebody(root, fp, firstbodyline) File "/var/mailman/pythonlib/email/Parser.py", line 218, in _parsebody payload[start:terminator]) MemoryError Jun 19 20:23:11 2007 (11284) SHUNTING: 1182292904.783638+0a96719432d01f6522da13a1fb9ef301d37d0344 June 15 is when the first of these showed up, which leads me to believe it's a seperate issue from the non-delivery of email to all recipients of a list (which, of course, I could be completely wrong about), since the last time I received a message from this list was June 11. Any pointers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have asked the server admins if there could be a physical memory problem, which would cause the Memory Error listed above, and received a negative. I also have asked if the memory allocation for Python was sufficient, and was told it has access to all 16GB of memory that the server holds. I've also come across a suggestion to add the line " self.__conn.set_debuglevel(1)" to the SMTPDirect.py file and restarted Mailman, but that hasn't seemed to help either. Thanks in advance for any help, George Booth <>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<> George Booth iTech Applications Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Southern Mississippi ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp