Kai Behncke wrote: > >Thank you for answering. For me as a mailman/sendmail newbie this is really >not easy. > >Well, the Mailman aliases I had already inserted in /etc/mail/aliases > >like that: >"mailman: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" >mailman-admin: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" >mailman-bounces: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" >mailman-confirm: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" >mailman-join: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" >mailman-leave: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" >mailman-owner: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" >mailman-request: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" >mailman-subscribe: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" >mailman-unsubscribe: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman"
These are only for the mailman list. You need another set of 10 like complicate: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post complicate" complicate-admin: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin complicate" etc. for the 'complicate' list and simarly for all other mailman lists. Then you need to run the newaliases command to update the actual sendmail database after you add the aliases to /etc/mail/aliases. This may fix the entire problem, >If I look at the sendmail-log is says at /var/log/mail.log (I think this is >the right logfile?): > >"Sep 9 19:30:00 h1228898 sm-mta[9439]: l89HU0cm009439: from=<[EMAIL >PROTECTED]>, size=1872, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] >Sep 9 19:30:00 h1228898 sm-mta[9442]: l89HU0vb009442: from=<[EMAIL >PROTECTED]>, size=1944, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] >Sep 9 19:30:01 h1228898 sm-mta[9444]: l89HU0vb009442: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=229944, relay=mx0.gmx.net. >[213.165.64.100], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Message accepted {mx057}) >Sep 9 19:30:01 h1228898 sm-mta[9441]: l89HU0cm009439: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=229872, >relay=mx0.stratoserver.net. [81.169.163.94], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK >id=1IUQbh-0001o6-RB) >Sep 9 19:30:50 h1228898 sm-mta[9451]: l89HUnA7009451: from=<[EMAIL >PROTECTED]>, size=1957, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] >Sep 9 19:31:09 h1228898 sm-mta[9453]: STARTTLS=client, >relay=mail-in-2.serv.uni-osnabrueck.de., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, >cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 >Sep 9 19:31:13 h1228898 sm-mta[9453]: l89HUnA7009451: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >delay=00:00:23, xdelay=00:00:23, mailer=esmtp, pri=229957, >relay=mail-in-2.serv.uni-osnabrueck.de. [131.173.17.163], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent >(l89HV4Rg012816 Message accepted for delivery) >Sep 9 19:31:35 h1228898 sm-mta[9456]: l89HVZZ1009456: from=<[EMAIL >PROTECTED]>, size=2071, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] >Sep 9 19:31:38 h1228898 sm-mta[9458]: l89HVZZ1009456: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=esmtp, pri=230071, >relay=mail-in-3.serv.uni-osnabrueck.de. [131.173.17.149], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent >(l89HVZ6x026973 Message accepted for delivery)" > >What could that mean? Almost all of the above entries are for outgoing notifications from Mailman. One pair of entries (note the same esmtp id - l89HU0cm009439) - Sep 9 19:30:00 h1228898 sm-mta[9439]: l89HU0cm009439: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1872, class=-60, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] Sep 9 19:30:01 h1228898 sm-mta[9441]: l89HU0cm009439: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=229872, relay=mx0.stratoserver.net. [81.169.163.94], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK id=1IUQbh-0001o6-RB) is a notice to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from the complicate list, which has been sent to the MX at mx0.stratoserver.net which may or may not kno how to send it back. >You wrote it could be a DNS-problem? >What do you mean with that? >Do I need a DNS-Server to use mailman/sendmail? No, but you need appropriate DNS records somewhere in order to receive mail. When I do dig any lists.gforge.geoplp.de I see among other things the following records lists.gforge.geoplp.de. 1800 IN MX 10 geoplp.de. lists.gforge.geoplp.de. 1800 IN MX 20 mx0.stratoserver.net. lists.gforge.geoplp.de. 1800 IN A 85.214.90.79 geoplp.de. 1800 IN A 85.214.90.79 This all looks fine, but it raises the question of why sendmail relayed the message above to mx0.stratoserver.net when geoplp.de is a higher priority MX. This is not a DNS problem per se, but perhaps sendmail determined that geoplp.de (which is the local host) couldn't deliver to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp