On Sunday, September 30, 2007, 12:30:44 AM, Gary Spivey wrote: GS> My lists are locked down to only allow posts from members, so my GS> members are not getting any [spam]. However, as list owner, every GS> one of my lists is getting a large amount of [spam] - generally GS> sent to the listname-owner or to mailman-owner.
I run only a small handful of lists, with anywhere from 20 to 200 members each, and filter out at least 200 spams to the various list addresses daily by running everything through SpamAssassin via a small bit of procmail. I've been doing this for about a year now, and very few spams get through, resulting in very few messages for a moderator and uncaught bounce notifications. Legitimate bounces (e.g. a user submitting a message from a recently changed email addresses) still occur as expected & desired. Wholesale bouncing of list mail to non-subscribers is totally unacceptable due to the amount of outscatter this will cause. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter#Backscatter_of_email_spam ) It only took one list member from one of the smaller lists (which is private and not listed anywhere) who had their address book harvested by a trojan to cause about 50 spam emails a day to that list alone on an ongoing basis... so hiding the list addresses doesn't guarantee that they won't eventually leak out and get on the spam lists. Aliases file entries and procmail script is below. I'm currently tagging list filtered spam and shunting it to a specific folder which I periodically review and flush, but it could just as easily be sent to /dev/null. >From the aliases file: ## listname mailing list listname: "| /usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc post listname" listname-admin: "| /usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc admin listname" listname-bounces: "| /usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc bounces listname" listname-confirm: "| /usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc confirm listname" listname-join: "| /usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc join listname" listname-leave: "| /usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc leave listname" listname-owner: "| /usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc owner listname" listname-request: "| /usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc request listname" listname-subscribe: "| /usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc subscribe listname" listname-unsubscribe: "| /usr/bin/procmail -m /etc/procmailrcs/mailman.rc unsubscribe listname" The mailman.rc file is: VERBOSE=yes LOGFILE=/var/log/mailman-procmail.log MMCOMMAND=$1 MMLIST=$2 :0fw * < 256000 |/usr/bin/spamc # Send on to Mailman if not marked as spam :0 H * !^X-Spam-Status: Yes |/var/mailman/mail/mailman $MMCOMMAND $MMLIST # Otherwise add tag and send to abuse mailbox :0 * ^Subject:[ ]*\/[^ ].* { SUBJECT=$MATCH } # create the new subject token SUBJECT="[$MMLIST Filtered] $MATCH" # insert it into the headers :0hf | formail -I "Subject: $SUBJECT" # and forward :0 ! spam -- Best regards, Robert Braver [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp