Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tom Ray [Lists] wrote: > > >> Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >>> This is a bug in Mailman pre 2.1.7 that logged the envelope sender of >>> the outgoing message instead of the incoming message. >>> >>> >>> >> So I'm sure I'm understanding you correctly then that some of those >> message could be valid posts made by members since this list was around >> since 2.1.4 or so? >> > > > These are all valid posts made by list members. Everything in the > 'post' log should be a valid post to the list. Occasionally, when > there is an smtp-failure on a mailman generated message (say a reject > of spam with a forged non-existant local address), you can get a > failure entry in the post log even though the message wasn't a post, > but if you filter out the failures (or the > [EMAIL PROTECTED] message-ids), everything else is > a legitimate list post. > > Note that these failures appear in the mmdsr report under Other > Messages:->Log file: post. > > > Thanks. That helps a lot. > >> Thanks for the information. I'm tearing apart the post log because I >> want to get the total size of the message. Then I need to figure out how >> many emails where sent so I can figure out bandwidth usage. I mean if >> they send a 10K file to a list with 1,000 members that's a lot of >> bandwidth to send out. >> > > > Yes, but if you want to be truly accurate, you also have to look at > your MTA logs. > > For example, if a 10K message is sent to a list with 1000 members, and > the list is not personalized, and the message is not VERPed in > Mailman, mailman might deliver this to the MTA in say 5 transactions > with 200 recipients each for a total exchange between Mailman and the > MTA of about 50K plus the address list. > > The MTA in turn might batch delivery so if say 50 of those 1000 > recipients are in the aol.com domain, the MTA might send one 10K + > transaction to AOL for all 50, rather that sending 10K 50 times. > > I see what you are saying. I'll write something to dig through my Exim logs and see what I can come up with.
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