> -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:23 PM > To: Brian Carpenter; 'Gabriel Millerd'; mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo > > Brian Carpenter wrote: > > > >I find it very problematic when a large ISP such as AOL and Yahoo > allows their users to define what is spam is and what is not. > > > Well, in one sense, only the final recipient can determine what is spam > and what is not, but I certainly agree that providing a "this is spam" > button that a user can click by accident or for any number of spurious > reasons, and then using that click to label the sending server as a > (possible, probable, ?) spam source is fraught with difficulty.
This wouldn't be a problem if they just applied a filter to that person's e-mail address but to block an server's IP from sending any e-mail to all their users? <shudders> The really bad situation is when an e-mail forwarder that is setup on my server that forwards both legitimate mail and spam (when it makes it through my anti-spam system) to their AOL or Yahoo account and the user then clicks that wicked "spam" button and inadvertently reports my server as a source of spam. It's a tragic case of mistaken identity and none of the major e-mail providers are willing to come up with a system that doesn't target the middle man. > I would hope that any service that does this would make it simple for > senders to get reports of this so they can try to address people's > problems. I think AOL does, although I haven't tried to sign up for > their feedback loop. AOL is very easy to get on their feedback loop and they have at least demonstrated a willingness to work with a mail administrator. > Certainly Yahoo doesn't seem to make it easy (although I just submitted > their request form, we'll see), and it is not easy (so far impossible > for me) to get on Microsoft's Junk Mail Reporting Partner program. > -- > Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan Wait till you get Yahoo's response asking you to add every single domain name you want a report on, to a text file along with its domainkeys. For a hosting company that hosts thousands of domains, such a request is ridiculous. AOL does it by the IP address not by domain. Regards, Brian -------------------------------------- EMWD.com - 'Powered by Techies' Blog.emwd.com - "Curious comments from a web hosting techie" ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp