[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I've been working on the SpamBayes filtering on mail.python.org for a couple >weeks. Now that the training database has matured a bit for the most part >the unsures I see now seem to be bounce messages for a handful of mailing >list subscribers which Mailman doesn't handle automatically.
I don't understand. Are you talking about the incoming message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the unrecognized bounce notification from Mailman to the list owner? If it's the incoming message, Mailman hasn't had a chance to recognize it yet, and any changes to Mailman's bounce recognition isn't going to affect what your Bayes filter sees. >The most >problematic domains are rediffmail.com, big.or.jp, 163.com, ospaz.ru and >126.com. The bounce messages from 163.com and 126.com (and I think >big.or.jp) are written in the native character sets (Chinese or Japanese), >so I can understand if Mailman doesn't recognize them. I'm not sure what >the problem is with the others. > >Is this a known issue with Mailman? Are there workarounds? We're running >2.1.10. It is a known issue in that 1) Many MTA's do not send RFC 3464 compliant DSNs 2) We do our best to recognize non-compliant DSN's, but humans are better at it than is code, so there will always be 'unrecognized' bounces. 3) We make no attempt to recognize any language other than English. If you send me example DSNs from the above domains, I can try to add recognition for them. I tried mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to see if I could get DSN's from these domains, but rediffmail.com, 163.com and 126.com rejected the recipient at SMTP time and the others accepted the mail and haven't yet returned a DSN. The best 'workaround' as far as recognizing DSNs in Mailman is concerned is to enable Mailman's VERP options VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
