That advanced the ball. The problem was that the mailman's primay group was 
mailman (Mandriva automagically creates a primary group for each user with the 
same name as the user name, that has been a problem more than once). I changed 
the primary group to mail. Thanks.

However, I am now getting permission denied errors on the database folders.

IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
'/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/mailman/database/2008-October-date.lock.dap002.2271.2'

I ran check_perms and all is OK. This has always been about 
ownership/permissions but I question why check_perms doesn't/won't fix it. What 
is it supposed to be?

FWIW, the owner:group for /usr/lib/mailman and /var/lib/mailman trees is 
mailman:mail. 

I should also note that the command (it was just a help command to req) did 
work but I did not want to try actually mailing something to a list until this 
is all fixed.

Thanks again for your help and my ISP seems to be accepting email from the 
python.org domain again.

Mark Sapiro wrote:
>Where are your aliases?
>
>The mail wrapper is compiled to to expect to be invoked by the 'mail'
>group. Postfix will invoke the wrapper as the user and that user's
>primary group corresponding to the owner of the aliases.db file in
>which the pipe command was found. I.e., if the aliases.db file is
>userx:groupy, postfix will invoke the wrapper as userx:groupx where
>groupx is userx's primary group.
>
>-- 
>Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net 
><http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>>        The highway is 
>for gamblers,
>San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan


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